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Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by phkahler »

iamthepieman wrote: post #42
duiker101 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Java is so wanted? Where are you?

There are a lot of Java jobs out there.not in startup-land but government and big fortune 500 firms wrote a lot of Java applications in the 90s and early 2000's that they are still maintaining. Also, because of this they will often write new applications in Java because that's what their in house developers who were hired to maintain old apps already know. I worked on a java server application about 10 years ago and…

>> I worked on a java server application about 10 years ago and I get more recruiters contacting me about Java positions from that one item on my resume than I get from anything more recent or currently popular.

Drop it from your resume. Go ahead and leave the position and project description, but leave the language out.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by TeMPOraL »

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

> Most recruiters will not share this information until you have gone through the process more. What is to stop you from ignoring them and contacting companies directly once they give this?

Common courtesy. Not giving company name is a sign that the deal with the recruiter will likely not be a "win-win" arrangement.

> This is a poor choice and will drive away recruiters.

I think that's sort of a point of that form. There's way too much recruiter spam in tech, so it's good for you to get rid of the more exploiting ones.

> You should be more interested in the opportunity not the exact pay. This looks like a money grab. Having a good career is more important than a dollar figure.

I don't think this really applies to most programming jobs; the current trend in tech is to switch a job every couple of years.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by toolz »

dennisvdvliet wrote: post #43
davelnewton wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If nobody tells recruiters their automated targeting system isn't working, it just enables more of the same.

That would be a nice change; what if a recruiters sends you and opening that is about building a system to prevent this spam :-)

Then they would be excited to find out you've already solved the problem for yourself.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by xofer »

calcsam wrote: post #23

Mine: "The next time a recruiter pings you, ask them how much you're worth." https://medium.com/@calcsam/the-next-time-a-recruiter-pings-...

There's a problem with asking how much they're willing to pay up front: It's a negotiation and in order to get an actual number, you have to sell yourself first. If you seriously want to know what they're willing to pay, you'll have to go through the whole hiring process.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by mrweasel »

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

5. is interesting, I honestly never considered your reasoning, but it makes sense. It also backfires though, I wouldn't talk to recruiter that wouldn't tells me the name of the company. There are companies that I wouldn't want to work for. They are usually the same companies that outsource recruitment, so it works out okay.

> Having a good career is more important than a dollar figure

I consider a decent salary part of a good career. If it was just about doing stuff I care about I wouldn't work at all, I could do all those things without a job. Giving at least a salary range would be expected.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by wodenokoto »

sdalfakj wrote: post #48

What is it in the linked page that makes the page fail to show any text when javascript is blocked? and why is this being done? srs.

With javascript it is one of the smoothest experiences I've seen filling out a form. Very, very nice.

But probably not worth it, if it doesn't degrade nicely.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by fecak »

Recruiter here, and I'd welcome this type of response. I'd much prefer to reach out to someone via email address than LinkedIn, but when I can't find an address (it happens) it means a LinkedIn invite that has severe character limits. All you can usually fit is a quick intro and "are you interested in discussing a job doing..." type stuff.

This response gives the recruiter an opportunity to present a fairly decent pitch, while giving the recipient the ability to screen a more complete pitch instead of a truncated note.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by mandlar »

Methusalah wrote: post #47

I had one track down the phone number for my employer, call here, and ask the secretary to speak with me while refusing to say what the reason was until he spoke with me.

I've had this happen multiple times. I find it very disrespectful to call me unsolicited at my job about another job.
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