It's hard to compete with RStudio for best IDE for R. I stick with vim-R-plugin for most stuff but RStudio is so helpful for making presentations. But competition is good. Excel add-on, on the other hand, seems very interesting. I lost lots of time in Excel before I decided to get rid of it instead in favour of R+SQLite. I wonder if it would be possible to make the add-on work under wine though. Edit: just tried to g…
The latest RStudio preview release has Vim mode, if you're interested.
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Re: Show HN: New IDE and GUI for R language
#52I'm not a big fan of Excel as IDE for R.
So down vote when someone says. I am not a fan of Excel? I can list several. 1) Excel your end result can not be replicated 2) Excel use in most shops use macros extensively and it is easy to not have your Excel environment available 3) The graphing capabilities of Excel is the reason why people still use pie charts 4) When doing analysis you want everything scripted? Excel as part of the tool chain is not something…
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#55And yet they keep that butt-ugly logo. Is it an in-joke, or something?
It actually kind of is. GNU logos are consistently incredibly ugly and show utter disdain for, or lack of awareness of, graphical design [0]. It could be almost like a philosophical point: "GNU software is utilitarian. We don't waste time on fancy graphics". Or it could be that GNU developers tend to be... developers. No designers in sight, and no appreciation for visual aesthetics. 0: https://www.gnu.org/graphics/pa…
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#56I'm not a big fan of Excel as IDE for R.
Really constructive comment- and it was very easy to guess the 9 points you wanted to mention why it's not a good choice.
Excel is a poor choice for statistical analysis beyond textbook examples, the simplest descriptive statistics, or for more than a very few columns. The problems I encountered that led to this conclusion are in four general areas:
[1] Missing values are handled inconsistently, and sometimes incorrectly.
[2] Data organization differs according to analysis, forcing you to reorganize your data in many ways if you want to do many different analyses.
[3] Many analyses can only be done on one column at a time, making it inconvenient to do the same analysis on many columns.
[4] Output is poorly organized, sometimes inadequately labeled, and there is no record of how an analysis was accomplished.
'Here’s an example of how the numerical inaccuracies in Excel can get you into trouble.'
http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~jsimonof/classes/1305/pdf/excelr...
As someone previously mentioned here 'RStudio' is great. I would also add R-Project for Linux distribution.
Excel is a wonderful tool for many things. Statistics is not among them.
P.S. Happened a couple of times that articles posted on 'Journal of Econometrics' was denied (even by college students) for errors due to Excel.
Re: Show HN: New IDE and GUI for R language
#57I personally use R Studio and see no reason why I'd prefer a spreadsheet, R Studio does let you see a table representation of data anyway, and can very easily import spreadsheets and manipulate them.
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#58Making R available from Excel seems a good idea to ease the transition for newbies (like R commander) but what advantages does the standalone IDE have over RStudio or the default R.app? Edit: actually I managed to click through to find this screenshot: http://fasterstat.com/Images/Desktop/12_R_gui.png which looks novel (can't currently watch the video unfortunately)
A major use-case for Excel integration is in finance, where a vast number of analysts - not newbies in any meaningful sense - work in Excel. Giving them access to the power of R from within a familiar environment is a great thing. Recommendation for the developer (if you're not doing this already): market hard to finance businesses. You'll make a killing.
R and Excel integration already exists: http://www.r-bloggers.com/a-million-ways-to-connect-r-and-ex...
Not that I think it's a good idea. Also, R is already a thing in Finance, quite a few job postings list it as a useful skill, and Linkedin has R/Finance groups.
Anyhow, it's much easier to manipulate data with scripts than spreadsheets, especially with R packages like quantmod. Looking at giant spreadsheets makes my eyes bleed and my head hurt, plus I think R Studio makes more sense for newbies to R anyway (and R Studio Server is fantastic for businesses).
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
A major use-case for Excel integration is in finance, where a vast number of analysts - not newbies in any meaningful sense - work in Excel. Giving them access to the power of R from within a familiar environment is a great thing. Recommendation for the developer (if you're not doing this already): market hard to finance businesses. You'll make a killing.
Term newbies in R was what the poster before stated. Personally I would NOT want to have anyone use R with a spreadsheet program. 1) I want manipulated data that is clear to replicate 2) I want my output to be plots and reports not another spreadsheet
Knitr for the win! Seriously great package (and integrated nicely into R Studio), I use it for all my reports, presentations, etc...
Re: Show HN: New IDE and GUI for R language
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
The latest RStudio preview release has Vim mode, if you're interested.
The Vim mode in RStudio is rather disappointing. Doesn't even have support for macros.