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Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

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C'mon! No one here read the sourcecode? It's made without any programming using this app: https://www.scirra.com/ ... still more games than i have done though :-P

May you please link to any of your projects? Were any built without using any third party tools or libraries?

Is it common to build a project without using any third party tools or libraries?

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

#52
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May you please link to any of your projects? Were any built without using any third party tools or libraries?

Please. There is quite a difference between not using third-party tools/libraries, and (arguably) not programming at all . I mean, the tool's tagline is "Create Games. Effortlessly." This isn't an attempt to put the OP down, but let's keep things in perspective.

I just walked through some of their tutorials and it is still programming. It has a UI for a lot of it, but the concepts are probably more like what I consider traditional programming concepts than HTML/CSS (excluding JS).

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

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post #50

EDIT: I apologize for coming off as arrogant. Criticism isn't really doing any good and I regret that post. To the creator, I'm glad to see a 15 year actually doing something in computing. I understand that this was a good experience for you and hopefully has further developed you skills. Sorry for the unnecessary criticism and blatant self promotion. My post was pointless, possibly narcissistic and I was doing what…

Hey, that's great for you, but don't be too quick to criticize how someone else hacks. You deserve credit for trying something hard, but so does this person for actually releasing stuff. And remember, it's not all about programming chops - doing lots of little projects teaches you a lot about the whole process, from UI to backend, how the app stores work, maybe even what users like. If nothing else you achieve "flow" more easily with short-term hacks, and that helps keep your mind in a creative state.

Source: 40 year old programmer, started programming at 11, deeply jealous that there were no app stores back then for the zillion games I wrote.

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

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One tip: Ignore everybody and keep creating. If I'd done that at 15, then I wouldn't have started to doubt myself and stop working on ideas that later turned out to be very prescient.

The most important thing you should do is the thing that's most important to you. Be sure it's not defined by other people's opinions.

There will always be people in life like the guy who replied "While it is impressive to see another 15 year old programmer (I've never met one in real life even though I've been to three schools in two different countries (I'm a expat kid) ), the actual programming skill required to make games like these are little to none and truthfully i'm not overly impressed."

Ignore 'em and keep working.

EDIT: Oh, I should also mention: don't let the praise go to your head. Another mistake I made. In general, it's it's a bad idea to compare yourself to anyone else -- whether feeling smug and superior that you've accomplished all this at 15 (surprise, I know your secret!) or feeling weak and inferior that you're not as talented as some other person. They're not you, and you're not them. Relative comparisons like that don't matter one bit. Instead, it's far more advantageous to always be comparing your current self to your past self. That's how Carmack became so incredibly good, for example. He didn't wait for anyone to surpass him; he did it himself. That's only possible if you believe you're not as skilled as you could be, i.e. having no ego. Nor did he let people convince him he was wasting his time back when he was working on his early projects.

It's complicated. Just keep working.

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

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post #50

EDIT: I apologize for coming off as arrogant. Criticism isn't really doing any good and I regret that post. To the creator, I'm glad to see a 15 year actually doing something in computing. I understand that this was a good experience for you and hopefully has further developed you skills. Sorry for the unnecessary criticism and blatant self promotion. My post was pointless, possibly narcissistic and I was doing what…

I disagree completely. I'm over twice your age and started programming when I was 12. My birthday present for my 14th birthday was a $99 retail copy of Microsoft Visual C++ 4.0. Back then I wrote a notepad clone, cab archiver (zip was a fad, really!), and various other utilities. I remember thinking how cool it was when I was 14 to have over 50,000 downloads. I've been a professional programmer (big corp, consulting, etc) for 15 years mostly doing web and desktop applications for businesses.

I can't sit down and write a pacman clone or an asteroids game. Therefore, I can say that it takes more skill than "little to none". I am impressed.

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

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post #50

EDIT: I apologize for coming off as arrogant. Criticism isn't really doing any good and I regret that post. To the creator, I'm glad to see a 15 year actually doing something in computing. I understand that this was a good experience for you and hopefully has further developed you skills. Sorry for the unnecessary criticism and blatant self promotion. My post was pointless, possibly narcissistic and I was doing what…

inteligence != smartness

Some people are smart but not inteligent. And some are inteligent and not smart.

Someone might go great lengths of inteligence to create something utterly complex. While others might go the smart path and create something else. Both creations can become successful or unsuccessful. If one is complex and the other is simple doesnt mean one is better then the other.

Re: Show HN: I made 30 apps this year and I'm 15

#60

C'mon! No one here read the sourcecode? It's made without any programming using this app: https://www.scirra.com/ ... still more games than i have done though :-P

This sentiment should instead be presented constructively. You should have asked what code he needed to write outside of the framework, rather than being ruled by your own exasperation. You could have made a useful comment and been polite. Something you could likely consider every time you open your mouth, and I don't mean that in a mean way. Hacker News helped me better modulate what I say.

> You could have made a useful comment

It was useful to me. I was curious what languages/framework the OP did and I had no idea what scirra was until this post.

> and been polite.

Seriously? I don't see any types of aggression in tmikaeld's post.

> Something you could likely consider every time you open your mouth, and I don't mean that in a mean way. Hacker News helped me better modulate what I say.

This post just reeks of elitism. It's like immediately discrediting a comment simply because of one grammar/punctuation mistake.

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