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Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by pantelisk »

em-bee wrote: post #47
pantelisk wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually use it to edit audio tracks quickly up to 10 minutes long, though I have received nice emails from people who have used for 1hr+ podcasts successfully (though certain heavy operations wouldn't be very fun to use). For multitrack sessions, there is the ability to export to a .amss file that contains all the settings, markers, tracks etc. For single track edit... it would just crash right now. There is alread…

i managed to load a 12 hour book. it took some time to load, but once loaded the UI remained snappy, so i guess it is usable. the only problem is that the waveform does not scale when i zoom in.

Oh, that's fantastic to know.

Did you load it into multitrack, or the regular editor? (in multitrack it does not scale currently, but working on it). On regular editor it should in theory try to zoom.

There is a pyramid cache mechanism for long files, basically it tries to optimize with simple heuristics how many peak-lines to show for every zoom level. The renderer is pretty dumb right now - just old-school 2d canvas "ctx.lineTo" calls - no gpu, so enormous files can really make it slow, this is the reason for the drops (to ease load). So it might be dropping way too many samples in this case and then not switching properly to the next cache level because the zoom to duration/length ratio is enormous.

I 'll look into it. Thanks again

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by pantelisk »

epiccoleman wrote: post #49
16bitvoid wrote: post #32

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Bandlab Studio, maybe? Never used it, but might be what you're looking for. There's a web version and a mobile app. https://www.bandlab.com/creation-features

Bandlab is decent enough for this, yeah. It's not "version control" in the way that programmers are used to, not by any means. More like "Google Docs" but for a DAW session. Certainly good enough for "my brother who plays keys lives in a different city but we want to collaborate on something".

I think this git but for music you are suggesting is quite interesting (or more like a figma for music maybe). My musician friends still use dropbox and google drive to push around files to each other. Honestly, I would be all for it but I have a feeling that musicians are a tough crowd when it comes to these services. So maybe if somebody like Bandcamp who has already demonstrated good will with the community steps up and builds something that would be a delight.

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by gardaani »

pantelisk wrote: post #7
serious_angel wrote: post #5

It seems like the inspiration went from Audacity, and with great changes to the design and feel of calmness and solidity! I've tried loading a file with XM format, yet the current state of the import logic stated "Unsupported". Is there any chance you'll support the format? For example, the following artwork is radiating charmingly in VLC: - https://cable.ayra.ch/modplayer/mods/!Others/DYNAMITE_-_Winamp_5.0RC8_crk.xm…

Thank you :) I 'll look into it, I am a little cautious of bloating up the filesize (right now it's at 98kb of js and 10kb of css), but if I can make something work efficiently I 'll give it a go. On an unrelated note, I'm a little surprised there is no good open source web audio tracker (like Renoise but for the web) out there yet...

Is bassoontracker too old-school? https://www.stef.be/bassoontracker/

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by esikich »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #23

So want something like this but where the tracks are in the cloud. I want to "check out" someone's drum loop and add a guitar riff. Check it into a branch. Someone else checks out the drum+guitar, adds a bass line. Checks in. "Jamming" with other people is one of the most fun things. To the degree that you can "get close" on the web… RiffHub, anyone?

Idk if the GitHub analogy really works for music.

With software, the code is a tool. And you can give the code away and still make money on hosting, support, enterprise sales, consulting, recruiting, whatever.

With music, the stem is the product.

If the drum loop is mediocre, nobody cares. If it's actually good, the creator usually wants ownership, licensing, royalties, exclusivity, or at minimum, attribution. But even at that level, it's trivial. Once you remove the triviality of it, it becomes art, which is the product.

People absolutely want cloud collaboration though. Shared sessions, async recording, version history, stem exchange, all of that makes sense.

But public forks of high quality musical material don't really compound the way software tools do. Most musicians are not trying to maximize downstream reuse of their riffs by strangers on the internet.

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by pantelisk »

gardaani wrote: post #54
pantelisk wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you :) I 'll look into it, I am a little cautious of bloating up the filesize (right now it's at 98kb of js and 10kb of css), but if I can make something work efficiently I 'll give it a go. On an unrelated note, I'm a little surprised there is no good open source web audio tracker (like Renoise but for the web) out there yet...

Is bassoontracker too old-school? https://www.stef.be/bassoontracker/

Oh.. I 'm mindblown! I was wrong, this is the great tracker we were missing

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by mickmister »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #23

So want something like this but where the tracks are in the cloud. I want to "check out" someone's drum loop and add a guitar riff. Check it into a branch. Someone else checks out the drum+guitar, adds a bass line. Checks in. "Jamming" with other people is one of the most fun things. To the degree that you can "get close" on the web… RiffHub, anyone?

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Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by fagnerbrack »

kirbysayshi wrote: post #36

looks at code, sees safety closures, function assignments, sequential var declaration Ahh I see you are one of the old ways, of the lost knowledge :) I am very nostalgic for this style of development, even though I do not miss it in a team setting at all! Super cool app you’ve made!

Let's make it modern again, just write a blog post on tech blog

Re: Show HN: Audiomass – a free, open-source multitrack audio editor for the web

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Post by notThrowingAway »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #23

So want something like this but where the tracks are in the cloud. I want to "check out" someone's drum loop and add a guitar riff. Check it into a branch. Someone else checks out the drum+guitar, adds a bass line. Checks in. "Jamming" with other people is one of the most fun things. To the degree that you can "get close" on the web… RiffHub, anyone?

Out of all web-based apps I've tried, audiotool matches your description the closest.
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