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Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by tyrust »

VenezuelaFree wrote: post #14

Search is the reason I stopped watching youtube, I used to view and discover so many nice stuff in there, tutorials, new hobbies, new music, new creators with different interests, etc but now it's pretty much impossible to find, you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustrating It got so bad that even searching the f…

> you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustrating

Brother, you are the one choosing the videos.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by ddtaylor »

jeffbee wrote: post #29
ddtaylor wrote: post #15

If anyone has a good solution to YouTube destroying all value of the Subscriptions page I am open ears. Until recently my consumption of YT was basically to go to my subscriptions page and see what new content had been released since I last watched YT.

That's ... exactly what the subscriptions feed does right now?

The subscriptions page was changed about a month ago. It now shows the videos in the top as "Relevant", which includes a list of videos from the ~12 days that are being suggested to you. After that is a real list of chronologically ordered videos, but videos are not listed twice. This means if the video appears in the first list (as "relevant") then it will not be shown in the second list.

The end result is that the subscriptions page now shows videos "in order", but the order is wrong. My current subscription page shows a video from 14 hours ago, then a video from 9 days ago, then one from 5 days ago, then 6 days ago, and then 1 day ago.

Honestly, I feel like `yt-dlp` does a better job of this with this command:

    yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser chrome --flat-playlist https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by owlboy »

loveparade wrote: post #17

The whole Youtube experience has gotten so bad over the years. I love the youtube content, but I wish I didn't have to deal with the UI/UX and recommendations that the YT app forces on me. Annoying Shorts. I'm trying to keep my watch history clean to "steer" recommendations, but YT keeps adding things to it that I didn't actually watch just because I happened to hover my mouse over a video, etc.

They see those hovers as attention. And they likely calculate how long you linger. The lingering tells them a lot when you are infinite scrolling on other platforms.

They would love to have full on eye tracking. So the next best thing is a cursor. (Even though I’d agreed with anyone who says it’s a poor signal.)

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by deadbeef7f »

jeffbee wrote: post #29
ddtaylor wrote: post #15

If anyone has a good solution to YouTube destroying all value of the Subscriptions page I am open ears. Until recently my consumption of YT was basically to go to my subscriptions page and see what new content had been released since I last watched YT.

That's ... exactly what the subscriptions feed does right now?

My subscription feed now has a row of 3 videos labeled "priority", then a row of 3 videos labeled "latest", then a row of "Shorts," then it appears to continue on with the "latest" but there's no label.

This is from memory so I may have got something wrong. And I could be an A/B test subject as this has been new as of a few weeks. There's also a "More..." fold or two in there.

This pattern does not represent how I use the product. I do not watch shorts and I don't know how or why they mark things as a priority. I want to know what's newest and the time ordered list being deprioritized in the UI and fractured makes that worse.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by owlboy »

atum47 wrote: post #5

I'm not popular enough to write a post about everything that is wrong with YouTube, from recommending the same few videos over and over again in different "categories" to ALL the results of a search being cringe shorts no one wants to see.

I desperately want someone to interview someone at YouTube and directly ask about this bullshit and get them to say it’s all in the name of increasing watch time at all costs.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by owlboy »

cj00 wrote: post #37

Yeah searching your history is so terrible too I ended up making a custom database that takes the also horrible Takeout output and parses it into a SQLite db. I end up relying on it when I remember some video I started watching weeks ago but can’t remember where it was anymore.

Do you automate your takeout so the DB is relatively fresh?

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by mech422 »

jeffbee wrote: post #30
atum47 wrote: post #5

I'm not popular enough to write a post about everything that is wrong with YouTube, from recommending the same few videos over and over again in different "categories" to ALL the results of a search being cringe shorts no one wants to see.

I know it's really really loud in your echo chamber but short form videos are extremely popular.

He didn't say they weren't ? He said youtube keeps recommending 'cringe' shorts no-one wants to see. I can sympathize with him - I have the youtube recommends the same 4 videos over and over again in multiple categories issue, and the 'lots of shorts I don't care about issue'. Though, shorts at least get refreshed/rotated more often then the stupid suggestions.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by wswope »

tyrust wrote: post #51
VenezuelaFree wrote: post #14

Search is the reason I stopped watching youtube, I used to view and discover so many nice stuff in there, tutorials, new hobbies, new music, new creators with different interests, etc but now it's pretty much impossible to find, you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustrating It got so bad that even searching the f…

> you are forced to watch the 3 top videos, some 3 ads and then it forces you to watch some other random unrelated crap, it's so annoying and frustrating Brother, you are the one choosing the videos.

Exactly the sort of user hostility I’d expect from a google employee. Shameful.

Maybe if practical tools such as like-ratios were in place users could sort good content from bad.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by BoppreH »

YouTube search is one of those services that is pointlessly hostile. Most recently, they've removed the "order by upload date" filter, and changed the way that blurring works. Previously, sensitive videos had blurred thumbnails and a toggle to remove the blur (even though it had no way to never blur). Now the UI looks the same, but the "toggle" reloads the page without any filters, and adding a filter re-blurs them. So it's impossible to filter results and see unblurred thumbnails.

These changes baffle me. It's not even enshittification because I cannot see any benefit to YouTube at all.

Re: Show HN: I made a YouTube search form with advanced filters

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Post by zmmmmm »

This is much needed. It says so much that "Title includes" is an advanced search .... I really wonder what a basic search is.

My pet peeve: no way to filter on language. Once you hit obscure enough content, you start getting videos back in languages you can't understand. With no way to filter them out. So frustrating. Would be great to add that here. Assuming it even exists in the metadata.

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