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Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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What is a person who makes a site like this thinking about when they do it? What is their motivation? What are they trying to achieve?

They’re pointing out fraud. Is that a bad thing now? I think it’s fair game to point out that the the 30 under 30 hype list is just that: hype. And there’s often very little substance underneath hype. And sometimes there’s outright deceit under it.

well why was Cursor included amongst known fraudsters.. that just seems mean and warrentless

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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What is a person who makes a site like this thinking about when they do it? What is their motivation? What are they trying to achieve?

I think the site likely started off as a meme. However it also seems to have a bit of a "hit piece" vibe to it in the last section

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re pointing out fraud. Is that a bad thing now? I think it’s fair game to point out that the the 30 under 30 hype list is just that: hype. And there’s often very little substance underneath hype. And sometimes there’s outright deceit under it.

well why was Cursor included amongst known fraudsters.. that just seems mean and warrentless

In the section that says:

100% SATIRICAL — SCORES ARE FICTIONAL AND DO NOT REFLECT REAL-WORLD FRAUD RISK

?

Personally I think it’s not a bad thing to be a little skeptical about brand new companies with double digit billion dollar valuations. If they’re legit they can more than withstand a little satirical dig.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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the stupidity to this is that it takes a meme and treats it like facts yes, numerous 30u30 have committed frauds, and yes this list is a paid list. but it's also full of other people who have been duped by what this list represents. compounding memes at the expense of truth just creates more problems than it solves

it’s not a paid list. Or at least it wasn’t, can’t say with certainty it didn’t change.

Some people on the list likely paid to be on it. They likely didn't pay Forbes the company though and maybe the payment was just invites to parties.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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We're Missing the biggest frauds of all time: https://www.whitehouse.gov/

When your president is a complete fraud and con man, the whole country is tarnished - its too late for America to bounce back, we are in end stage capitalism now that Trump and his cronies are siphoning money out of the boundaries his administration establish -no different than Putin and his oligrachs except that America still has some protections in place..

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What fraud have any of the companies under "risk index" committed?

Which bit of "risk index" are you not getting? Alternatively: how are you in a position to claim they're 100% not frauds?

So I have to prove they aren't fraud otherwise they are fraud by default. Makes perfect sense.
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