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Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

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Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#51
Slack but better UX/pricing, sure, but the real reason everyone is on Slack is network effects and integrations. External partners force you onto Slack even if you hate the pricing, and there is other lock-in (CI/CD webhooks, monitoring alerts, support ticketing).

I like the concept, but there are reasons why everyone doesn't just switch to something like https://once.com/campfire which is self-hostable and completely free.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#52
post #51

Slack but better UX/pricing, sure, but the real reason everyone is on Slack is network effects and integrations. External partners force you onto Slack even if you hate the pricing, and there is other lock-in (CI/CD webhooks, monitoring alerts, support ticketing). I like the concept, but there are reasons why everyone doesn't just switch to something like https://once.com/campfire which is self-hostable and completel…

I think Campfire used to have a one-time cost of $200 or something per domain, when did it switch to being free?

Edit: found it, it was in August 2025 https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire/commit/df76a227dc1...

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#53
post #13

Unpopular opinion maybe, but 90 day memory loss is a feature, not a bug.

I'm coming around to the idea that permanent chat history is not a good thing, but that's because the company I work at recently changed our workspace retention period to 365 days. You quickly realize how much you depended on searching for 2+ year old slack threads for the context behind why a feature works the way it does when it gets yanked away from you and all you're left with is an underused/disorganized Notion and the code itself.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#54
post #51

Slack but better UX/pricing, sure, but the real reason everyone is on Slack is network effects and integrations. External partners force you onto Slack even if you hate the pricing, and there is other lock-in (CI/CD webhooks, monitoring alerts, support ticketing). I like the concept, but there are reasons why everyone doesn't just switch to something like https://once.com/campfire which is self-hostable and completel…

I think Campfire used to have a one-time cost of $200 or something per domain, when did it switch to being free? Edit: found it, it was in August 2025 https://github.com/basecamp/once-campfire/commit/df76a227dc1...

I actually just learned that from visiting now, haha. It's surprising.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#55
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't think you can ignore mobile, particularly wrt notifications. I'm not sure if the app stores are as aggressive in restricting wrapped apps as they used to be.

Mobile notifications are a must have for any Slack replacement. Lots of teams have centralized their on call alerts to Slack.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#56
I know it’s probably your MVP website and I may be in the minority here but..

I guess I have vibe generated website content fatigue.

The screenshots look nice and the colors are cool, but seeing the repeated phrases and words made me navigate back about 30% through.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#57

I run a company that services 1,000+ clients on Slack, another 300+ on Teams, and a I wouldn't wish Teams on my worst enemy, so in that regard, I love Slack The thing I struggle with the most is how I'd move all of our core functionality from Slack. A lot of the people/teams that build these "Slack killers" I don't think have ever run Slack at scale How are you going to replace the 30+ in-house apps I've built that a…

I didn’t read the full site but it seems they’re not really going for those users?

Anyone who has dozens of custom workflows and apps in their Slack is probably spending 10s of thousands of dollars on Slack. It is probably vital to their business.

This seems like it’s for small teams (like 3-5 people even, collaborating daily) who get rekt really fast before they’re forced to spend $60 a month.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#58
post #31

I don't know if I like the marketing. A deeply discounted product obviously has some appeal, but it's at odds with the "chat that just works" messaging that suggests an advantage in reliability or UI and that will realistically take time to mature enough to be at parity, let alone ahead.

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I wasn't defining as feature parity and didn't think you implied that anywhere.

If you've come up with a way to perform as well as Slack at the basic multi-client message service at launch, that's great. "that doesn't suck"/"that just works" reads to me like more the claims of a low cost MVP that hasn't solved those issues yet. (Probably because they're overused.)

Only speaking to your marketing and not intending to impugn your team credentials/experience.

Re: Show HN: Dock – Slack minus the bloat, tax, and 90-day memory loss

#60
post #59

It says no bloat, is that a nod to it being built with something other than Electron?

As someone who spent time writing a native slack alternative... It's massively more challenging to do so, and means that you won't have the exact same experience on different platforms. Auto correction etc. behaves different, font rendering, buttons, interactions, all different.

If I had to do it today, I'd look at egui, but I have concerns about its lack of UX (it's still early), or electron still, with a sane language (The wails project looked interesting too).

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