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Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by GaryBluto »

venturecruelty wrote: post #44
GaryBluto wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How dramatic. It's a little box that lets children make stickers by asking it, it's not "abjectly evil" in any sense.

And asbestos just gives you a little cough. If I weren't already so cynical, this entire thread would certainly do it. You people are so goddamn dismissive in the most repulsive, condescending way.

> You people are so goddamn dismissive in the most repulsive, condescending way.

If you can't handle seeing people disagree with you, why comment? Perhaps a place like Reddit or Mastodon would suit you better.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by devmor »

nickthegreek wrote: post #48
devmor wrote: post #18

Wow, a product that exists entirely to deprive children of the ability to develop artistic creativity. It's rare that I see a launch on HN that I could call abjectly evil, but this is certainly it.

Is your issue with stickers robbing kids of creativity or do all the licensed IP stickers that fill the stores that children buy immune from this criticism?

That is a ridiculously dishonest comparison and you know it.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by devmor »

GaryBluto wrote: post #39
devmor wrote: post #18

Wow, a product that exists entirely to deprive children of the ability to develop artistic creativity. It's rare that I see a launch on HN that I could call abjectly evil, but this is certainly it.

How dramatic. It's a little box that lets children make stickers by asking it, it's not "abjectly evil" in any sense.

It’s a device specifically created to deprive children of creativity by doing all of the work their mind would do for them. The kind of process required for healthy childhood mental development.

It is heinously disgusting and morally repugnant, everyone involved with creating it and bringing it to market should be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by venturecruelty »

charcircuit wrote: post #50
tinfoilhatter wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm struggling to find the creative part in having an AI print stickers for a child. Seems like the entire creative part is skipped over.

The amount of permutations of words you can say along with the permutations of drawings you can add to the sticker is a gigantic number. That is a big enough state space for people to express creativity.

The entire point of being creative is that you actually MAKE it yourself, not that you tell the slop machine to make it for you. This is, quite frankly, the complete and total opposite of creativity. This is pure consumption disguised as creativity, wrapped up in a nice $99 box that will probably be e-waste in a couple years when the company goes under.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by venturecruelty »

GaryBluto wrote: post #51
venturecruelty wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And asbestos just gives you a little cough. If I weren't already so cynical, this entire thread would certainly do it. You people are so goddamn dismissive in the most repulsive, condescending way.

> You people are so goddamn dismissive in the most repulsive, condescending way. If you can't handle seeing people disagree with you, why comment? Perhaps a place like Reddit or Mastodon would suit you better.

I challenge you to re-read your comment again and again until you understand where you went wrong.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by venturecruelty »

superb-owl wrote: post #49

Lots of hate here, but I think this is clever and some iteration of it will sell well I get that folks are worried about what AI-generated art will do to kids sense of creativity. Will they still learn to draw? Play instruments? Write stories? But I genuinely believe that tech like this will only whet their imaginations. I would have had so much fun with this as an 8 year old, and would have spent hours just in my he…

Why learn to draw when the slop machine will make images for you? Why learn to write when the slop machine will make stories for you? Why learn an instrument when the slop machine will make music for you? This does nothing but kill actual creativity at the hands of the people making electricity expensive. We should be appalled and ashamed.

Also, criticism is not hate, and I think you and every other disingenuous AI cheerleader know it.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by GaryBluto »

devmor wrote: post #53
GaryBluto wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How dramatic. It's a little box that lets children make stickers by asking it, it's not "abjectly evil" in any sense.

It’s a device specifically created to deprive children of creativity by doing all of the work their mind would do for them. The kind of process required for healthy childhood mental development. It is heinously disgusting and morally repugnant, everyone involved with creating it and bringing it to market should be ashamed of themselves.

You could've said the same about the first wooden toys putting an end to children having to use their imagination to make playing with sticks and pebbles fun, but you didn't, because what you grew up with gets a pass.

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by Wilder7977 »

superb-owl wrote: post #49

Lots of hate here, but I think this is clever and some iteration of it will sell well I get that folks are worried about what AI-generated art will do to kids sense of creativity. Will they still learn to draw? Play instruments? Write stories? But I genuinely believe that tech like this will only whet their imaginations. I would have had so much fun with this as an 8 year old, and would have spent hours just in my he…

These are all (both mine and yours) opinions, and we will need studies to see what's what. That said, my opinion is that not everything is a software development pipeline and needs to be efficient with short feedback loop.

To me what you say:

> will mean that they start seeing rewards for their efforts much faster

sounds essentially a negative. This leads to rewards-chasing and a habit of obtaining result without an appropriate amount of effort. This means that many won't even ever discover their passions or what they are good at. Putting the effort is a necessary step to grow. In other words, will any kid with this machine ever draw something from scratch, after they got used to having something much better than what they could do (at least at the beginning) by hand?

All of this without even mentioning the impact of creativity, where instead of having to think/conceive stuff you have a technology that does that for you after a minimal input, rehashing what has been already thought.

My wish is that tech people just realized that the world is better off without their tech in most cases and stopped thinking that everything in the world needs some tech to "help" (which of course is really a way to make money).

Re: Show HN: Stickerbox, a kid-safe, AI-powered voice to sticker printer

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Post by charcircuit »

venturecruelty wrote: post #54
charcircuit wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of permutations of words you can say along with the permutations of drawings you can add to the sticker is a gigantic number. That is a big enough state space for people to express creativity.

The entire point of being creative is that you actually MAKE it yourself, not that you tell the slop machine to make it for you. This is, quite frankly, the complete and total opposite of creativity. This is pure consumption disguised as creativity, wrapped up in a nice $99 box that will probably be e-waste in a couple years when the company goes under.

Is writing a book not creative if you use an existing font? There are both creative aspects like choosing words or choosing a font and non creative aspects like rendering the font.
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