Super interesting project, at first I thought it would be a naive implementation of YOLO but I wasn't aware about retro-reflections. The papers he linked in the GH discuss very interesting ideas
Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
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Re: Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
#52Interesting idea. It seems to me that most things which would need to be protected from hidden cameras would be stationary and not require the operator to mount the detectors on his body, but starting with mobile constraints is often helpful. I would like to draw attention to this gem of wit, easily the best I've seen in a long time: > I think the idea behind this approach is sound (actually it's light)
Isn't the biggest mobile use case where you don't want to be secretly recorded in public? This was a big concern with the original Google Glass.
If I want to record you, you'd never know.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/4272574802/omnivision-has-crea...
So all the people blathering about camera in public have a moot point. All the whining does is prevent the fairly obvious camera being put into devices.
But if someone wants to record you in public otherwise, they will and there's nothing you or any of us can do about it.
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#53Taping over the recording indicator is illegal. Is there any way your device can find the MAC address of the glasses through bluetooth or something and file a lawsuit automatically?
Why is it illegal?
Re: Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't the biggest mobile use case where you don't want to be secretly recorded in public? This was a big concern with the original Google Glass.
If I want to record you, you'd never know. https://www.dpreview.com/news/4272574802/omnivision-has-crea... So all the people blathering about camera in public have a moot point. All the whining does is prevent the fairly obvious camera being put into devices. But if someone wants to record you in public otherwise, they will and there's nothing you or any of us can do about it.
The thing is, every beginner lockpicker makes a similar point when they realize how easy most locks are: "what's the point of locking my door if anyone can easily get in anyway?".
I think the same answers apply here: because making it harder to be casually recorded sends a clear signal that you don't want it, and now the act of recording goes from being an oversight to a deliberate, sometimes punishable act.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't the biggest mobile use case where you don't want to be secretly recorded in public? This was a big concern with the original Google Glass.
If I want to record you, you'd never know. https://www.dpreview.com/news/4272574802/omnivision-has-crea... So all the people blathering about camera in public have a moot point. All the whining does is prevent the fairly obvious camera being put into devices. But if someone wants to record you in public otherwise, they will and there's nothing you or any of us can do about it.
I think your point is a little black-and-white — there's tons of behaviour that sits in the "technical possible but frowned upon" bucket.
It's like people listening to music without any headphones on the train — technically has been possible for ages but previously would've gotten you told to turn it off. Now it barely gets a raised eyebrow.
Can you prevent people secretly filming you? No, but most people still don't want it be become accepted behaviour, even if to you that's all just "whining and blathering".
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> blocking/jamming the specific wireless traffic would be pretty interesting, if possible. And probably highly illegal.
Yeah, true. Implementing this would be tricky.
Implementing it is trivial. you can just overlook the radio from openWRT and drown out every 2.4-2.5 gHz device in a 100M radius.
Doing it targeted is more difficult since it does frequency hopping, but you could probably reverse the frequency hopping algorithm to target specifically Bluetooth and force high packet loss.
This is still illegal for radio jamming reasons, and also patent infringement since a misbehaving Bluetooth device has not gotten permission to use Bluetooth patents held by SIG.
Re: Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
#57Does anyone work on smart glasses for blind people yet? Something with blackened glass, obviously, that uses image recognition to translate visual input into text via (headphone) audio to the wearer. That would allow for urgent warnings (approaching a street, walking towards obstacle [say, an electric scooter or a fence]), scene descriptions on request, or help finding things in the view field. There's probably a lot…
Every time I read about smart glasses I wonder the same thing. Obviously the technology isn’t perfect, but it seems that even a basic pair of smart glasses with primitive image processing could be life-changing for a completely blind person. Yet as far as I can tell, most blind people don’t use technology at all for this purpose. Unfortunately, the HN website is extremely unfriendly to users relying on assistive tech…
Makes me wonder just how big the market for such a device would be, and if it would attract investors…
Re: Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I want to record you, you'd never know. https://www.dpreview.com/news/4272574802/omnivision-has-crea... So all the people blathering about camera in public have a moot point. All the whining does is prevent the fairly obvious camera being put into devices. But if someone wants to record you in public otherwise, they will and there's nothing you or any of us can do about it.
The thing is, every beginner lockpicker makes a similar point when they realize how easy most locks are: "what's the point of locking my door if anyone can easily get in anyway?". I think the same answers apply here: because making it harder to be casually recorded sends a clear signal that you don't want it, and now the act of recording goes from being an oversight to a deliberate, sometimes punishable act.
It becomes an oversight to a deliberate act only if the recording person knows that he was detected. So that means that your anti recording glasses should signal 'no recording' in some way. Otherwise it's not really useful.. But at that point.. You can just stick a qrcode on you with the message 'no recording please look away from me'.
Re: Show HN: Glasses to detect smart-glasses that have cameras
#59Interesting idea. It seems to me that most things which would need to be protected from hidden cameras would be stationary and not require the operator to mount the detectors on his body, but starting with mobile constraints is often helpful. I would like to draw attention to this gem of wit, easily the best I've seen in a long time: > I think the idea behind this approach is sound (actually it's light)
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#60Pretty neat idea! I love the BLE detection approach, would be pretty amazing if this works. I'll be following this with some interest!
Tangentially related it's also useful to quickly gauge if your smarts-wielding neighbors are home or not so noise levels can be adjusted accorsingly (: