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Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by culi »

mh- wrote: post #31
culi wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Wikipedia Library membership gives me access to some cool resources that might be of interest: - Arcanum is the largest and continuously expanding digital periodical database from Eastern Europe, which contains scientific and specialized journals, encyclopaedias, weekly and daily newspapers and more - NewspaperARCHIVE.com is an online database of digitized newspapers, with over 2 billion news articles; coverage ex…

That's very cool, but I lack the 500+ total edits on Wikipedia to qualify. My first edit was 20 years ago this month and at my current pace I'll be able to access that in another 588 years. Is there some other way to pay [Wikipedia/WMF] for access to that bundle?

Nope, there's no way to pay for access to the bundle as it's meant solely for core Wikipedia contributors. However, many of these services independently offer paid access

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

V__ wrote: post #28
JuniperMesos wrote: post #27

> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

Maybe this is just my bubble, but the messaging I get is that Israel should stop murdering Palestinian civilians and not that Hamas is somehow righteous in their actions.

What I tend to see is mostly an overlooking of one side's actions while condemning the other side, with different people favoring different sides. So you have people who make excuses for Hamas like "they are just responding to an existential threat" while strongly condemning Israel, and people who make similar excuses for Israel while strongly condemning Hamas. Personally I feel that there are no heroes and everyone sucks in this situation, except for the innocent bystanders on both sides who are being caught in the crossfire.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by mh- »

culi wrote: post #51
mh- wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's very cool, but I lack the 500+ total edits on Wikipedia to qualify. My first edit was 20 years ago this month and at my current pace I'll be able to access that in another 588 years. Is there some other way to pay [Wikipedia/WMF] for access to that bundle?

Nope, there's no way to pay for access to the bundle as it's meant solely for core Wikipedia contributors. However, many of these services independently offer paid access

Thanks, I figured as much. I looked at a few of the sites you mentioned and saw they have subscription offerings. I'm not shy about subscribing to stuff, but my use of it would be so seldom I can't justify it.

Maybe I'll just 10x how often I make edits so that I'm merely 59 years away from hitting 500.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by delis-thumbs-7e »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #27

> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

With that same logic me objecting to Iraq War I supported Saddam’s terror regime. Just because you think Israel actions are bloody genocidal war crimes does not mean that Hamas terror is justified or that some guy in a wheel chair should be killed. Yes, there is some young people who seem to get all of their information from social media and have absolutely no understanding of what is happening - they support Hamas, or claim that US have no dog in the fight.

Palestina-Syria was a term coined for the region by Emperor Hadrian after the destruction of the Second Temple, so 40 years is nothing in the timeline of this whole conflict. The modern Zionism goes back to the 19th Century and the Israel occupation and oppression of Palestinians at least to 1948. So no, this skirmosh at the sea gave you very litlle understanding of why things are like they are, why the violence continues and how US has been funding this conflict the whole time.

If you actually want to understand what this conflict feels for a regular Palestinian just trying to live, listen this interview: https://pca.st/episode/4f0099d2-2c6e-4751-b1e1-e0913fa25734

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by smallmancontrov »

serial_dev wrote: post #23
culi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny that this site's tagline is "Exactly 40 years back, these felt huge. See how they landed with time." but so many of these stories are still just as alarming. If anything it often feels like we should've cared more. At the very least done more

In a similar vein, I think even news from 40 years ago can teach us a lot. The players may be different, but the game is the same. Many of today’s wars and conflicts were already ongoing; big pharma, big food, oil companies, corruption in our institutions, manufactured coups… it all feels like nothing ever really changes.

But the things that do change can be evaluated with the benefit of hindsight, for example the policies promoted by Robert "monopolies are good actually" Bork and Reaganomics more generally. The Wedge didn't open by itself and we are now in a position to judge whether what trickled down was piss or gold.

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by IshKebab »

andix wrote: post #5

Without mentioning the source of the articles, it's completely useless. It would be hard to detect completely AI hallucinated articles, without a possibility to check the authenticity of the content.

I agree. Why does this need to be AI?

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by anthk »

I just use this script in a terminal. It needs curl, lame and minimodem. Easy and quick on any GNU/Linux or BSD distro, or WSL2:

    #!/bin/sh
    curl -s http://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY \
      | lame --decode --quiet --mp3input - - \
      | minimodem --rx rtty -f - -a --print-filter -i

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by squigz »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #27

> For example, on Oct 7, 1985, Palestinian hijackers took over the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Reading this on a delay in 2025, the story unfolded over weeks: first they threw an American in a wheelchair overboard, then US fighter jets forced the escape plane to land, leading to a military standoff between US Navy SEALs and the Italian Air Force. Unbelievably, the US backed down, but the later diplomatic fallout led t…

It's been going on for a bit longer than 40 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_co...

Re: Show HN: Forty.News – Daily news, but on a 40-year delay

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Post by squigz »

anthk wrote: post #58

I just use this script in a terminal. It needs curl, lame and minimodem. Easy and quick on any GNU/Linux or BSD distro, or WSL2: #!/bin/sh curl -s http://internet-tty.net:8000/ITTY \ | lame --decode --quiet --mp3input - - \ | minimodem --rx rtty -f - -a --print-filter -i

What does this do?
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