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Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by cws »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #16

Blame the move toward blogging systems that separated content from presentation. Blame advertising which has to be front-and-center at all times. I wonder how advertising would work on the web if you didn't have omni-present ads but instead sometimes the viewport contained no ads, sometimes it contains big huge ads that take up the entire viewport (like a full-page ad in a magazine). Would that make up for them not b…

the separation of content and presentation has been important in web design from a code perspective. CSS exists because separating content and presentation was desirable. But most people don't want to deal with all that mess. They want to make a fun web page quickly and easily to serve whatever purpose they have in mind right then.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by codybrown »

jcromartie wrote: post #22

So, basically, "web publishing is broken because you have to do it on someone else's terms". And then you say "use our stuff instead".

You're able to build a completely unique site from a blank page in scroll kit. You are given a text form in other publishing platforms. Those are pretty different terms.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by sequoia »

I didn't get the CTA at the end. Join... what? I'm totally unclear about what I'm joining. I like the sentiment of the project: "back to DIY, one-off, unique pages- like in magazines!" but I don't understand how signing up for... something (?) will help me do this.

Throw me a bone: show me a bit -at least a video- of what you're offering before asking me to sign up.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by codybrown »

sequoia wrote: post #53

I didn't get the CTA at the end. Join... what? I'm totally unclear about what I'm joining. I like the sentiment of the project: "back to DIY, one-off, unique pages- like in magazines!" but I don't understand how signing up for... something (?) will help me do this. Throw me a bone: show me a bit -at least a video- of what you're offering before asking me to sign up.

the video is right above the join button.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by sequoia »

codybrown wrote: post #54
sequoia wrote: post #53

I didn't get the CTA at the end. Join... what? I'm totally unclear about what I'm joining. I like the sentiment of the project: "back to DIY, one-off, unique pages- like in magazines!" but I don't understand how signing up for... something (?) will help me do this. Throw me a bone: show me a bit -at least a video- of what you're offering before asking me to sign up.

the video is right above the join button.

There is a youtube link with a thumbnail of a bear and some fire and lasers or something, I assumed it was decorative because most of the visual aspects of the site are.

Upon further investigation you can try the tool right on the page, I just didn't know this because there was no CTA for it, as there was no "See it in action!" CTA over the video. Startupers pitching your project to users: make it as simple as possible to see your value prop- don't make me work for it :)

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by ShawnBird »

ktsmith wrote: post #30
creamyhorror wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like it. Lots of personality, you know they're there to make it fun. We could do with a return of the GeoCities self-made-page aesthetic (with improved aesthetic sense, of course) on a web where everything on the big sites is neatly templated and identical in layout. Amidst all the consistency, I've been missing the touches that used to make personal sites unique. All people do on their blogs now is throw on funny…

I feel the opposite and don't particularly care for it. The page is basically content free has some content that is difficult to read and contains seizure inducing animation.

Exactly, anyone who thinks this is an improvement is not thinking it through.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

ktsmith wrote: post #28
jastanton wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im not sure if high def is the right adjective: https://www.scrollkit.com/s/plIhCWv

Wow, that's an even better example.

Reminds me of Yvette's Bridal Formal, when it still existed, except about 90% less cluttered.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by icebraining »

markshead wrote: post #11

"The web is the most advanced publishing system we've ever had but the process in which most people publish is backwards next to print." There were probably similar things said about the shift from hand copied books to using printing presses.

Yes, so? Early printing press probably was less developed than hand copied books in terms of design, but it evolved, which is what they're proposing we do on the web. I don't get your point.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by mnicole »

splatcollision wrote: post #15

Edit Room inspired? Be honest... http://www.edit-room.com Also template-free blank canvas web design, a little more professional maybe?

I'd substitute the gradients on your site for solid colors, they're a little too intense. Also the signup password field being in plaintext isn't quite right.

I like what Edit Room tries to do but I think you need to look into finding a UX or UI person that understands web design/development because it is a little too geeky/subtle in implementation for the user that this is targeted for. However, I like how it focuses you in on the content and content-type before you get into designing around it.

Re: Show HN: A Handcrafted Web

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Post by splatcollision »

mnicole wrote: post #59
splatcollision wrote: post #15

Edit Room inspired? Be honest... http://www.edit-room.com Also template-free blank canvas web design, a little more professional maybe?

I'd substitute the gradients on your site for solid colors, they're a little too intense. Also the signup password field being in plaintext isn't quite right. I like what Edit Room tries to do but I think you need to look into finding a UX or UI person that understands web design/development because it is a little too geeky/subtle in implementation for the user that this is targeted for. However, I like how it focuse…

Thanks very much! I've been working hard on making the UX better, and will have a nice solid update shortly, that should address your concerns. I'll let HN know as soon as the improvements are ready.

One nice thing that's coming is being able to design for different screen widths with a built-in breakpoint tool that creates media queries for you from your design.

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