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Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by pyman »

symboltoproc wrote: post #42
pyman wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For free? How's that possible when one AI prompt uses 10x more energy than a Google search [1]? [1] Source: https://kanoppi.co/search-engines-vs-ai-energy-consumption-c...

10 google searches are also free

You didn't click on the link I shared. I'm talking about the cost to produce the response, not the request. One AI prompt uses around 10 times more CPU and energy than a Google search.

If ChatGPT handles 1 billion queries a day, that's like the energy cost of 10 billion Google searches every single day.

Someone has to pay the electricity bill. We all know it's not free like you claim.

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by edmundsauto »

AnythingLLM is great for this, it even enables you to setup RAG from your own set of docs, which it then retrieves via embedding and adds as context.

I use that + OpenRouter which gives me API access to more models as well. Huge fan of this approach.

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by 112233 »

pyman wrote: post #51
symboltoproc wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10 google searches are also free

You didn't click on the link I shared. I'm talking about the cost to produce the response, not the request. One AI prompt uses around 10 times more CPU and energy than a Google search. If ChatGPT handles 1 billion queries a day, that's like the energy cost of 10 billion Google searches every single day. Someone has to pay the electricity bill. We all know it's not free like you claim.

you also didn't click on the link the poster you replied to shared...

seconding openrouter and fal, having to muck around with idiosyncrasies of each vendor just to try their "bestest model" and find out it does not satisfy your requirements is a chore.

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by k9294 »

I'm a tech co-founder at loqus.ai, me and my team thought that it’s a great idea to make a one app “to rule them all”, but it appeared to be a bad idea.

We decided to stop active development when realized that most people don't want different models, custom instructions, tools, etc..

People want their work done, and no one cares how exactly it will be done - the less they have to think about the setup, the better (and chatgpt just works in most of the cases).

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by pyman »

112233 wrote: post #53
pyman wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't click on the link I shared. I'm talking about the cost to produce the response, not the request. One AI prompt uses around 10 times more CPU and energy than a Google search. If ChatGPT handles 1 billion queries a day, that's like the energy cost of 10 billion Google searches every single day. Someone has to pay the electricity bill. We all know it's not free like you claim.

you also didn't click on the link the poster you replied to shared... seconding openrouter and fal, having to muck around with idiosyncrasies of each vendor just to try their "bestest model" and find out it does not satisfy your requirements is a chore.

I'd stick with Google Search until Microsoft figures out how to handle a billion OpenAI requests a day without draining the water supply of entire cities. Because in Chile, for example, people are struggling.

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by ruthvik947 »

pyman wrote: post #55
112233 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you also didn't click on the link the poster you replied to shared... seconding openrouter and fal, having to muck around with idiosyncrasies of each vendor just to try their "bestest model" and find out it does not satisfy your requirements is a chore.

I'd stick with Google Search until Microsoft figures out how to handle a billion OpenAI requests a day without draining the water supply of entire cities. Because in Chile, for example, people are struggling.

https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversa...

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by pyman »

ruthvik947 wrote: post #56
pyman wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd stick with Google Search until Microsoft figures out how to handle a billion OpenAI requests a day without draining the water supply of entire cities. Because in Chile, for example, people are struggling.

https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversa...

Sorry, but I'm not interested in blog posts from lobbyist in Washington, the same place pushing to build mega datacentres with Nvidia servers in developing countries.

Also, Andy's blog post doesn't mention infrastructure-scale impacts. Even small actions add up, and as AI scales exponentially, so does the demand on energy and water. That part gets left out.

I'll stick with the research papers published by AI researchers [1] and investigative journalists [2], but thanks for sharing your link, it gives me a good idea of what lobbyists in Washington aren't saying.

[1] https://eng.ox.ac.uk/case-studies/the-true-cost-of-water-guz...

[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-ai-impacts-data-cent...

Re: Show HN: I built an LLM chat app because we shouldn't need 10 AI subscriptions

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Post by byyll »

intellectronica wrote: post #41

Cool and hats off to you for building an app ... but how come you couldn't find one?! There are so many. I use Raycast, which has access to all the models, there's Poe (from Quora) which is popular, Perplexity offers access to many models, and there are many more...

Is Poe pay per use or a subscription? I don't want to sign up just to find out.
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