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As a person, not a Veteran, I totally agree. This data should not be public domain. Definitely only accessible to family members (if at all). Having obtained my father’s military records, I can definitely say that I’m glad these weren’t online, searchable. Via those records I learnt much concerning my father and I’m glad I obtained them. To get those records, I had to prove I was his son, that my father was indeed de…
The military uses the gun of the taxman to force us to pay for them. If they're going to put me in a tiny cage for not paying up while they're galavanting around the world drone striking brown people and us citizens the least I can get out of it is the records.
Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
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Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#52Spent a few minutes trying to find an answer to "why do this?" Beyond just implying that it should be done and the most I was able to find was one sentence buried amongst paragraphs and paragraphs of "what" and "how". > these materials were largely unknown and inaccessible to historians, journalists, and genealogists I think it would be worthwhile to lead with that and include a little more detail too. If there isn't…
>If there isn't a clear motivation, people will assume the worst.
This is just a weird assumption.
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
The VA who you sued does serve vets with whatever money they dont spend fighting you.
The VA is obligated to follow the law as it relates to open records. Broadly speaking, America actively chooses to treat vets poorly. Call your Congressional rep (who directly controls policy that controls funding) versus taking your feelings out on your fellow citizen working for little or no pay to encourage government accountability as it relates to their legal obligations.
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#54Really hope op and crew are sued to oblivion.
Why? I'm curious. What's wrong with making information on deceased service members searchable?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
The military uses the gun of the taxman to force us to pay for them. If they're going to put me in a tiny cage for not paying up while they're galavanting around the world drone striking brown people and us citizens the least I can get out of it is the records.
This dump will give you the personal records of the rank and file. The “military” that you’re talking about is really congress and the president. It makes much more sense to go after the actions and communication of those folks than some grunts who gave their bodies shoveling shit for a chance at a future.
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The VA is obligated to follow the law as it relates to open records. Broadly speaking, America actively chooses to treat vets poorly. Call your Congressional rep (who directly controls policy that controls funding) versus taking your feelings out on your fellow citizen working for little or no pay to encourage government accountability as it relates to their legal obligations.
So you would prefer I sue the VA?! They tried to preserve my families' privacy and reduce risk to current heirs like me. No, doxxing the dead cause "letter of the law matters" for some stupid side project like this is far from commendable. I will bet those of us with a lot of family in there, especially recently deceased, will feel very different than you or the CEO of doxx the dead.
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#57As a veteran, I am aghast that this exists. What an invasion of people’s lives. To me this is far worse than when I was notified that a foreign adversary had stolen my military records, because at least they’re not publishing it on the web for all to see. Veterans aren’t politicians, and they don’t deserve to have their lives put on display like this without their permission. Some vets signed up because they wanted t…
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? I'm curious. What's wrong with making information on deceased service members searchable?
It costs the VA money they could use to youknow be saving veterans lives with? That is the "explain to a five year old" tier reason. There are a lot of other reasons too besides that, but the simple one for you should suffice.
I'm sorry, but freedom isn't free. That includes a cost to have visibility into the government. Making special rules on 'what visibly' also just ends up getting abused like the 'expense'.
This is what freedom looks like.
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#59As a veteran, I am aghast that this exists. What an invasion of people’s lives. To me this is far worse than when I was notified that a foreign adversary had stolen my military records, because at least they’re not publishing it on the web for all to see. Veterans aren’t politicians, and they don’t deserve to have their lives put on display like this without their permission. Some vets signed up because they wanted t…
If you give the government tools for hiding information, the government will abuse those tools. This is what freedom looks like. I have family members in this dataset, and they would be fine with it because they would pick freedom and this is what freedom has to look like.
Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records
#60Really hope op and crew are sued to oblivion.
Might a less vitriolic response be more productive here? Given the altruism that leads this endeavor, strong negativity might best be delayed until a more holistic understanding is gained.
For example, I've been accessing these same records thru Ancestry for some time - along with millions of other Ancestry users. If these records were a realistic vector for actual meaningful harm, the evidence should have manifested some time ago.
Broadly speaking, if we want privacy efforts to help in tangible ways, it's important to limit restrictions to where they do provable good. The alternative is restrictions that apply only to us - and not those with motivation (financial, power) to use private data for their own ends.