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Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by mvijaykarthik »

sosodev wrote: post #49
mvijaykarthik wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oodle can be utilized solely as a datasource, but we also wanted to provide a solution for customers who don’t have a visualization platform in place. Here is the branch we use: https://github.com/oodle-ai/grafana/tree/v11.1.0-oodle-stabl... , which has all the changes we have made in Grafana.

So the vast majority of your fork is just rebranding? Customers get to lose thousands of commits worth of improvements for that?

We are reasonably close to the latest version of Grafana. We periodically pull in new changes.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by TiredOfLife »

kirankgollu wrote: post #3
navjack27 wrote: post #2

I don't know how trademark works or anything like that not a lawyer etc etc but lots of stuff are called oodle. I wish you luck.

Thanks for the heads up. we did check on IP/trademarks just to be sure to avoid violations.

There is this obscure website, google.com I think is it's name.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by kirankgollu »

beaker52 wrote: post #26
memset wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because at the early stages it’s really important to talk to customers. This also helps find users for whom this is a huge pain point - metrics costs are so high that they’d love to talk to someone and complain about the problem.

“fully-managed, cheap metrics, ideal for serverless applications”

we leverage serverless and s3 based architecture for much lower costs. However, it's applies for any application, not just for serverless applications.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by kirankgollu »

someguy101010 wrote: post #20
kirankgollu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, it's only fully managed at this time. However, oodle is very cost-efficient, it's cheaper than your self-hosted infra costs. https://oodle.ai/usecases/self-hosted

any plans to open source? I feel very comfortable using neon.tech (separates compute from storage for postgres) b/c they open source their stack but it would be hard for me to adopt something like oodle without an open source version.

We don’t have plan to open source at this time. Many observability solutions are closed source. Could you please describe why you would require this to be open source vs open source compatible?

We think Oodle combines the benefits of open source (compatibility, no lock-in) with the operational simplicity, reliability of commercial vendors. Some products might give a false illusion of no-lock in just because it's open source, it wouldn’t mean you don't have lock-ins. We believe what really matters is "Open Source Compatible" - i.e. how easy it is to get in? How easy is it to switch out? (to a de-facto open source standard like Prometheus/Grafana should you need to disconnect ties with the vendor). Security and compliance is the other big part - we are working on adding compliance like SOC2, CCPA etc.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by kirankgollu »

sosodev wrote: post #50
kirankgollu wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, it's only fully managed at this time. However, oodle is very cost-efficient, it's cheaper than your self-hosted infra costs. https://oodle.ai/usecases/self-hosted

I would love to see an actual breakdown of oodle vs self hosted costs. I seriously doubt that it’s cheaper.

The actual mileage may vary here - we found this to be true for our early customers. Our pricing is simple, and transparent - https://oodle.ai/pricing. Based on our conversations, we consistently hear this is very cost-efficient. Pls let us know if you feel otherwise - but one can can easily input the #active time series / hour to get an estimate from Oodle.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by kirankgollu »

bayarearefugee wrote: post #29
kirankgollu wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the heads up. we did check on IP/trademarks just to be sure to avoid violations.

Oodle is a registered trademark: https://uspto.report/TM/88478792 RAD is now owned by Epic Games (acquired in 2021) so they have very deep pockets. A lot of people, including myself, were clearly initially confused that there must be some association given you are using this name in a not-entirely-unrelated field. IANAL but I hope you're real sure that you are legally in the clear before you commit too deeply to the…

Thanks for your inputs, we will followup.

Re: Show HN: Oodle – serverless, fully-managed, drop-in replacement for Prometheus

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Post by kirankgollu »

mt42or wrote: post #59

VictoriaMetrics is still cheaper!

Oodle is a fully managed offering. Curious why you think Victoria Metrics Cloud is still cheaper. https://victoriametrics.com/products/cloud/

This translates to about $5.2 per 1k metrics, Oodle is $1 per 1k metrics!

Am I missing something?

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