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Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

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Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

#51
There used to be so much more variation in convenience store chains... you had Sunkus, Everyday, Cocos, Ai shop, Poplar and so on.

I think Daily Yamazaki is still hanging on in some places? Might have been interesting to add to this map since there are zero where I live but on road trips I'm surprised when I pass by somewhere where there are a lot of them

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

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post #4

This is cool. One of the things I miss most after my trip to Japan is 7-Eleven/FamilyMart. So many nice snacks and drinks, and you never need to walk more than two minutes to find a store. I liked the onigiri a lot.

Japan made me want walkable cities in the US. I'd love it if I could just stroll down my street and pick up melon bread and Boss coffee in the morning.

>Japan made me want walkable cities in the US.

Yeah, me too. But I realized in about 2 seconds that getting walkable cities in the US within my lifetime is a pipe dream, so instead I just sold my car, packed my stuff, and moved to Tokyo instead.

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

#53

Why do you write 'conbini' instead of 'konbini' in the usual romanization form? For the todōfuken I would leave out the suffixes (mostly 'ken') in the English labels, except for Hokkaidō obviously.

'Conbini' is a loan word from English meaning 'convenience store.' Please forgive the originators of the word for spelling it so they can understand as Convenience starts with the letter 'c.'

'Convenience' also has 've' instead of 'bi', but that's not relevant. The loanword is コンビニ. When romanizing Japanese (or any other language) the etymology of a loanword has no influence on the romanized form (konbini).

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

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post #8

On my recent first trip to Japan, I couldn't believe the number and quality of 7-Elevens/Family Marts/Lawsons. You're never more than a five-minute walk from one in Tokyo, and they've got good stuff.

I visited Tokyo a few months back, and while the convenience stores seemed nicer than equivalents in America, I also wasn't particularly impressed. I think if I had just encountered them I'd be impressed, but the internet has hyped up the convenience stores of Japan so much I thought they'd blow me away. They're nice, they're good, but not amazing.

They are amazing, compared to anything in America. That's why they're amazing: you have to think about who's calling them "amazing", and where they came from.

It's like visiting Japan, and going to the restroom. If you just came from America, the experience is truly amazing, because 1) the restroom is clean, and 2) the restroom has privacy (no gaps around the doors, no giant gaps so people see your feet and pants pulled down), and 3) random stuff in the restroom isn't broken, and finally 4) there's a washlet.

If you came from a country where stuff is clean and kept in good order, and the bathrooms are pretty nice, then the Japanese bathroom would not be so amazing, except maybe for the washlet. But coming from America, where most of the features of Japanese bathrooms I listed above are not the case for most bathrooms, the Japanese bathroom is an amazing experience.

Basically, things in Japan are how you'd expect a well-run civilized society to be, so when you come from a place that is poorly run and not as civilized as it claims to be, then things in Japan do seem amazing for a while.

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

#56
The Hotelling game seems related:

https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs6840/2020sp/note/scribe...

https://www.eco.uc3m.es/~mmachado/teaching/oi-i-mei/slides/4...

IIRC the conclusion is that it’s optimal for stores to be positioned at extremes relative to each other (e.g. at two ends of the city) but the socially optimal situation is actually for them to be positioned closer together.

    I noticed that my neighborhood is all Lawsons, so I got the location of all Conbinis and ran some basic analysis to see if these pockets of brand territory are common.
I wonder if that explains why neighborhoods end up mostly containing one kind of store? Other explanations might just be it’s simpler to stock your stores if they’re closer together.

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan made me want walkable cities in the US. I'd love it if I could just stroll down my street and pick up melon bread and Boss coffee in the morning.

>Japan made me want walkable cities in the US. Yeah, me too. But I realized in about 2 seconds that getting walkable cities in the US within my lifetime is a pipe dream, so instead I just sold my car, packed my stuff, and moved to Tokyo instead.

Can I email you? I'm aiming to do the same.

Re: Show HN: Interactive map of the convenience store "turf war" in Japan

#59
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Japan made me want walkable cities in the US. Yeah, me too. But I realized in about 2 seconds that getting walkable cities in the US within my lifetime is a pipe dream, so instead I just sold my car, packed my stuff, and moved to Tokyo instead.

Can I email you? I'm aiming to do the same.

Sorry, I don't have an email address posted here. Basically, it was pretty simple: look for job ads that fit my skills, and which didn't require Japanese fluency. There's a fair number of companies here hiring for such positions. Then I applied, did a video interview, and got hired. There's a bunch of job boards where you can find such ads: gaijinpot, tokyo-dev, japan-dev, linkedin, etc.
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