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Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

mayne wrote: post #36
crooked-v wrote: post #16

As a heads up, this seems to break completely if any of a couple of different Chrome extensions I have are enabled (for example, Simplify - https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/simplify-copilot-au... ). Also, maybe it's just me, but I feel like the sqlite-based thing is, if anything, kind of a downside. Use it for caching and calculation, sure, but I want the source of truth to be just plain markdown files I can…

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

What logseq is going to do is just dump documents to markdown (right now they use markdown),I think something along these lines is the way to go, store in sqlite and have a constant background process creating markdown files for everything

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by swaroop »

mayne wrote: post #26
csomar wrote: post #24

Wait a second. Do you mean there is no sync possibility? Because the browser storage is far from reliable. I don't see this as "safe" if the data is not synced or backed up somewhere else.

You can make some adjustments in the settings[1] to store data in a local folder. Then, use iCloud, Git, or your preferred service to back up your data. Just like the web version of VSCode[2], it can handle local files. The web is just an app and doesn't hold any data. 1. https://eidos.space/settings/storage 2. https://developer.chrome.com/blog/persistent-permissions-for...

Maybe sync to cloud can be a future path, e.g. https://electric-sql.com/docs/reference/local-first (no affiliation)

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by mayne »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #51
mayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

What logseq is going to do is just dump documents to markdown (right now they use markdown),I think something along these lines is the way to go, store in sqlite and have a constant background process creating markdown files for everything

good idea. all documents are currently stored in the eidos__docs table. The `content` field is used to store the state of lexical documents in JSON format. Additionally, there is also a `markdown` field. This can be viewed by any sqlite software. Every time a document is updated, both fields are updated simultaneously, making it easy to convert to a file.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by mayne »

meiraleal wrote: post #49
mayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

SQLite won't stop working but your format is proprietary. A markdown can be understood even without rendering to HTML but your tables are useless for an user without your app.

A key idea of Eidos is to make each table a real SQLite table, so users can view and modify it through other software or visualize it with tools like Metabase

https://eidos.space/show/sqlite.webp

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by mayne »

fourside wrote: post #48
mayne wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the reminder. I know this makes SEO more challenging, and it also reminds people of a certain game company, but I really love this concept, which originates from the Plato's theory of forms, and it pairs perfectly with the eidos.space domain name. While it may not be a great business name, the concept itself is exciting. Eidos is deployed on Cloudflare Pages. it's a purely frontend project and the web is o…

Sorry I’m a bit confused. You describe this as an offline alternative to Notion, but there are also some optional components that run on serverless?

You can use Eidos with Wi-Fi off. when you add a bookmark, it won't display a rich information card, but just a URL. if you don't like this part, I can provide options to disable them. All of this can be solved through Electron, but I think PWA is enough, and Cloudflare generously provides some services.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by xienze »

meiraleal wrote: post #49
mayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

SQLite won't stop working but your format is proprietary. A markdown can be understood even without rendering to HTML but your tables are useless for an user without your app.

You can likewise encode proprietary information in Markdown, in the sense that it can be readable but not necessarily understandable by another application that understands Markdown. Like say for example my application allows for tables that include formulas in cells. Perfectly human-readable Markdown but probably won’t have the same level of fidelity in another application.

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by mayne »

euphetar wrote: post #47

Please provide a feature to load data from notion export

I developed an extension to implement the import function, it's still in development and lacking documentation. You can try it out, but I'm not sure if there are any bugs. Feel free to join our Discord to stay updated.

https://github.com/mayneyao/eidos-extension-importer

Re: Show HN: Eidos – Offline alternative to Notion

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Post by mayne »

mst wrote: post #43
mayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know many note-taking users like the concept of markdown and plain text. So do I. However, I think plain text has its limitations. There are many other types of structured data in life. Just like Word and Excel, they have different responsibilities. No one worries that Excel will not work in a few decades because it's just an offline software. Similarly, no one worries that SQLite will be unable to open or view bec…

My general answer to this is to make sure whatever thing I'm building understands Pg COPY TSV syntax - specified by https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-copy.html under 'text format' - and export to/import from that. It's nice to have something that plays nicely with awk/cut/diff/etc. and can be committed into a git (or elsevcs) repo. (I'm not specifically wed to COPY as the form, but given it's well known and…

Interesting, I'll give it a try.
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