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Right now someone, somewhere, is thinking of a way to use this to identify the ad portions in old podcasts and overlay new, perpetually relevant, dynamic ads.
This is already being done. Same as geo targeting dynamically inserted ads based on the IP of the downloading client.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is already being done. Same as geo targeting dynamically inserted ads based on the IP of the downloading client.
They use the IP! That explains why I was getting Spanish ads for a few days after returning home.
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#53This is something I would use - not to steal but so I could listen to certain podcasts for sleep. The host intros and ads for this certain podcast are terribly distracting from what is otherwise incredible content.
Not listening to ads is never stealing
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#54Alternative using SponsorBlock for podcasts on YouTube/Vimeo: https://github.com/mxpv/podsync
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#55This is interesting as a technical PoC but also feels a bit unethical. The moral case for ad blocking on the web seems pretty clear: online advertising is built on massive exploitation of user privacy, has horrible UX, and is often implemented so poorly that it tanks pageload performance. In short, I understand why people use ad blockers on the web. Podcasts though? In RSS-based podcasting, which is what this tool ta…
Is it unethical to fast-forward through ads? How about if I turn the volume down during ads, is that morally wrong? Maybe I play ads at regular speed and volume, but I think about something other than the ads while they play, is that wrong? Perhaps a truly ethical consumer would listen intently to every ad, rewinding every time their mind wanders, pausing the audio every few seconds to take copious notes.
That said, "unethical" was clearly a poor choice of words, as that's quite a loaded term. However, this technology is designed to systematically circumvent the mechanism by which many podcast creators earn money for their effort, and even if "unethical" is the wrong word, we should still discuss whether putting these technologies out, and using them, is a good move - particularly if we care about rewarding creators and supporting the podcasting industry. (And there's an argument that goes even further, around whether doing something like this is systematically violating an implicit contract with creators, even if it's more of a moral contract than a legal one).
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Sponsor Block for YouTube videos.
I find SB reporters sometimes too eager and even flagged some skips due to an incorrect category. Not that it’s a mass issue, but it has to be worked on. Otherwise it’s fantastic. (SB has different categories of skips. E.g. sponsor ads, self promotion/merch, like-sub-bell annoyances and so on. You choose what you skip.)
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#57I don't get it. You want the podcast, you value the work, you don't want them paid?
Ding ding ding. A lot of podcast authors offer ad-free versions as a paid feed to members, which to me, invalidates the ethically dubious “but the podcaster has already been paid” argument. They should be given the choice to do this. I feel like the slippery slope is immensely dangerous as it always is with these products.
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Is it unethical to fast-forward through ads? How about if I turn the volume down during ads, is that morally wrong? Maybe I play ads at regular speed and volume, but I think about something other than the ads while they play, is that wrong? Perhaps a truly ethical consumer would listen intently to every ad, rewinding every time their mind wanders, pausing the audio every few seconds to take copious notes.
This sounds a bit like the fallacy of the beard; the existence of ambiguous behaviours that exist somewhere on the spectrum between "listening to an entire podcast with ads" and "automatically downloading the podcast, editing out the ads, and reuploading to a personal RSS feed so you can listen to it ad-free" shouldn't prevent us from contrasting the behaviours at the extreme ends of the spectrum. That said, "unethic…
Note that a lot of people believe that it is not only a good move, but the actually ethical one. I fail to see how the ads would benefit the users directly, and I will go out of my way to not support advertising. So far I've installed tools like uBlock Origin and Sponsor Block for tens of friends/acquaintances now, and I firmly believe they are getting a better experience.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ding ding ding. A lot of podcast authors offer ad-free versions as a paid feed to members, which to me, invalidates the ethically dubious “but the podcaster has already been paid” argument. They should be given the choice to do this. I feel like the slippery slope is immensely dangerous as it always is with these products.
How do you feel about just fast forwarding past the ads in your audio player? Is that unethical too?