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Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by factormeta »

smcin wrote: post #45

You're using Typescript+CSS. Was hoping you'd support Python on the server, for game logic. Your timing is good because developers and publishers currently using BGA are unsettled and spooked by Asmodee's business model. BGA Studio's stack is JS/CSS + PHP (client and server) + MySQL [0] Yucata.de is JS + HTML + .NET 4.5 on the server [1] (TTS was using Lua, which I looked into but seemed eccentric and limited, it's n…

there is nothing wrong with Typescript, but it is the react part that worries me. Wouldn't you want something more light weight on the front end than react for games? Like svelt, marko or solid?

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by monkeywork »

tgtweak wrote: post #50
gam6121147 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why on earth choose a non-OO language for a boardgame Lua has usually been a very popular choice for game developers. One reason is that it gives you an easy way to embed a scripting language in your game. You can do OOP without classes [0]. > Can you please please please integrate with Python on the server? You expect the developer to port and maintain their entire project to Python because you can't be bothered t…

Seems pretty trivial to support Python serverside. Python is very easy to run in a lightweight isolated container (and you can compile it to static executable). The game data that the engine makes available to the server side code looks pretty standard and doesn't look like a huge shim to maintain. You could even cross compile the Python to typescript for a simplified server side environment (typy for example).

>Seems pretty trivial to .....

Then go do it. If it's pretty trivial....

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by Ensorceled »

gam6121147 wrote: post #46
smcin wrote: post #45

You're using Typescript+CSS. Was hoping you'd support Python on the server, for game logic. Your timing is good because developers and publishers currently using BGA are unsettled and spooked by Asmodee's business model. BGA Studio's stack is JS/CSS + PHP (client and server) + MySQL [0] Yucata.de is JS + HTML + .NET 4.5 on the server [1] (TTS was using Lua, which I looked into but seemed eccentric and limited, it's n…

> why on earth choose a non-OO language for a boardgame Lua has usually been a very popular choice for game developers. One reason is that it gives you an easy way to embed a scripting language in your game. You can do OOP without classes [0]. > Can you please please please integrate with Python on the server? You expect the developer to port and maintain their entire project to Python because you can't be bothered t…

>> > Can you please please please integrate with Python on the server?

> You expect the developer to port and maintain their entire project to Python because you can't be bothered to learn a new programming language?

They are literally begging, 3 "pleases", rather than "expecting".

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by 20after4 »

xky wrote: post #40
jvehent wrote: post #24

Don't called your project *Zilla. The copyright owners of Godzilla are known to go after everyone who tries to use the "Zilla" suffix. Mozilla learned its lesson long ago and had to negotiate a special agreement.

Meta also pursues trademarks applicants for trademarks ending in 'book' as well.

That seems a lot more dubious than the *zilla trademark.

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by rtpg »

leetrout wrote: post #47
smcin wrote: post #45

You're using Typescript+CSS. Was hoping you'd support Python on the server, for game logic. Your timing is good because developers and publishers currently using BGA are unsettled and spooked by Asmodee's business model. BGA Studio's stack is JS/CSS + PHP (client and server) + MySQL [0] Yucata.de is JS + HTML + .NET 4.5 on the server [1] (TTS was using Lua, which I looked into but seemed eccentric and limited, it's n…

What is Asmodees business model and what does it have tondo with BGA?

Asmodee owns BGA, also owns a huge amount of game publishers. I have a decent collection and then looked at my games and noticed that Asmodee published like 70% of my games.

Just feels like we're reaching a point where if you want to get a game published at a larger scale and distributed, you'll likely really be incentivised to go through Asmodee.

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by askvictor »

gam6121147 wrote: post #46
smcin wrote: post #45

You're using Typescript+CSS. Was hoping you'd support Python on the server, for game logic. Your timing is good because developers and publishers currently using BGA are unsettled and spooked by Asmodee's business model. BGA Studio's stack is JS/CSS + PHP (client and server) + MySQL [0] Yucata.de is JS + HTML + .NET 4.5 on the server [1] (TTS was using Lua, which I looked into but seemed eccentric and limited, it's n…

> why on earth choose a non-OO language for a boardgame Lua has usually been a very popular choice for game developers. One reason is that it gives you an easy way to embed a scripting language in your game. You can do OOP without classes [0]. > Can you please please please integrate with Python on the server? You expect the developer to port and maintain their entire project to Python because you can't be bothered t…

I remember a book on the shelf at home in the 90's entitled "Object Oriented Programming in Macro Assembler".

And indeed, C has function pointers, so you can do OO. Just not some of the more fun stuff.

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by SamBam »

dingnuts wrote: post #17
josephcsible wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/CommonsClause has several links explaining what's wrong with the Commons Clause. The reason the AGPLv3 is my preferred replacement is that the FAANGs are irrationally afraid of it and refuse to let it be used anywhere in the company (e.g., https://opensource.google/documentation/reference/using/agpl... ), but it's still 100% Free Software and Open Source and so allowed to be p…

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> That sounds like proprietary copyright wherein third parties are allowed to view, but not modify, the source code, to me.

... Except that they're literally allowed to modify the source code?

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by marssaxman »

paradox460 wrote: post #43
cyberninja15 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woah, this is wild. Never knew how aggressive the copyrights were for *Zilla.

Wonder how the people of Zillah Washington feel about it

I'm fairly sure that the antiquity of the Book of Genesis trumps any conceivable trademark claim!

Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by airtonix »

tgtweak wrote: post #50
gam6121147 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why on earth choose a non-OO language for a boardgame Lua has usually been a very popular choice for game developers. One reason is that it gives you an easy way to embed a scripting language in your game. You can do OOP without classes [0]. > Can you please please please integrate with Python on the server? You expect the developer to port and maintain their entire project to Python because you can't be bothered t…

Seems pretty trivial to support Python serverside. Python is very easy to run in a lightweight isolated container (and you can compile it to static executable). The game data that the engine makes available to the server side code looks pretty standard and doesn't look like a huge shim to maintain. You could even cross compile the Python to typescript for a simplified server side environment (typy for example).

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Re: Show HN: Boardzilla, a framework for making web-based board games

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Post by airtonix »

factormeta wrote: post #51
smcin wrote: post #45

You're using Typescript+CSS. Was hoping you'd support Python on the server, for game logic. Your timing is good because developers and publishers currently using BGA are unsettled and spooked by Asmodee's business model. BGA Studio's stack is JS/CSS + PHP (client and server) + MySQL [0] Yucata.de is JS + HTML + .NET 4.5 on the server [1] (TTS was using Lua, which I looked into but seemed eccentric and limited, it's n…

there is nothing wrong with Typescript, but it is the react part that worries me. Wouldn't you want something more light weight on the front end than react for games? Like svelt, marko or solid?

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