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Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by KomoD »

outcoldman wrote: post #9

Looked at the Compare Chart. They just placed a few things like "Data Vault" or "Private Downloads" without any explanation what are those. Also they are so inaccurate. Like saying that Phones cannot play youtube videos in background. Well, you can just install an app, and it will be able to do that. Adblocking is not available for Safari, Chrome or Firefox? You don't need to be an IT person to figure out how to enab…

> Adblocking is not available for Safari, Chrome or Firefox? You don't need to be an IT person to figure out how to enable them.

How then? If I can block ads with Chrome on mobile then I'd switch back from Firefox.

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by KomoD »

isr wrote: post #38
moinism wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another Pakistani, I don't understand the need for a protest... Let the names be used.

Brother, you missed the "lol" in op's comment. Anyway, perhaps the devs are Pakistani ;-)

> perhaps the devs are Pakistani

The company is owned by a Chinese national

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ale42 wrote: post #45
mixmastamyk wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not it… need to set about ten settings after that: turning off telemetry, google search+keystroke spying, pocket, home page, corporate links, etc. All before connecting to the network.

Keystroke spying, you mean the autocomplete of google search terms or what else?

Yes, not aware of anything else.

Forgot to mention I also like dialing up the privacy settings, like disabling third-party cookies, turn on DNT, GPC, etc. But this is optional territory.

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by outcoldman »

KomoD wrote: post #51
outcoldman wrote: post #9

Looked at the Compare Chart. They just placed a few things like "Data Vault" or "Private Downloads" without any explanation what are those. Also they are so inaccurate. Like saying that Phones cannot play youtube videos in background. Well, you can just install an app, and it will be able to do that. Adblocking is not available for Safari, Chrome or Firefox? You don't need to be an IT person to figure out how to enab…

> Adblocking is not available for Safari, Chrome or Firefox? You don't need to be an IT person to figure out how to enable them. How then? If I can block ads with Chrome on mobile then I'd switch back from Firefox.

You can block ads in Safari on iPhone with extensions. Maybe Chrome as well with AdGuard dns ads blocker.

I would assume Chrome on Android has something similar, extensions support?

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by KomoD »

outcoldman wrote: post #54
KomoD wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Adblocking is not available for Safari, Chrome or Firefox? You don't need to be an IT person to figure out how to enable them. How then? If I can block ads with Chrome on mobile then I'd switch back from Firefox.

You can block ads in Safari on iPhone with extensions. Maybe Chrome as well with AdGuard dns ads blocker. I would assume Chrome on Android has something similar, extensions support?

> Maybe Chrome as well with AdGuard dns ads blocker.

DNS-level ad blocking is not the same, it's much worse, nor is that actually a part of the browser

> I would assume Chrome on Android has something similar, extensions support?

There are no extensions on Chrome on Android

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by amatecha »

jeroenhd wrote: post #48
amatecha wrote: post #19

I clicked, read "Quetta does not collect, store or share any data." , but then: > The resource at “ https://stats.g.doubleclick.net/g/collect?[truncated]” was blocked because content blocking is enabled. (also their account identifier is "11l1l1l1l1", an attempt to anonymize their own advertising account? Seems legit) > Request to access cookie or storage on “ https://analytics.google.com/g/collect?[truncated]” was b…

Mozilla does the same thing. Their website is loaded with trackers, and for security reasons, parts of their website can't be controlled by addons like uBlock. I have a strong suspicion their "install Firefox on your smart thermostat" popups that show up every time it updates itself are also part of their tracking solution, because there's no easy way to opt out of those and they sure contain a boatload of trackers.…

I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or GETs to tracking APIs either, that I can see. Not sure what you're referring to, but this is the most privacy-respecting webpage I've been to in a long time.

Same thing going to mozilla.org . I'm not seeing any tiny hint of what you're describing.

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by outcoldman »

KomoD wrote: post #55
outcoldman wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can block ads in Safari on iPhone with extensions. Maybe Chrome as well with AdGuard dns ads blocker. I would assume Chrome on Android has something similar, extensions support?

> Maybe Chrome as well with AdGuard dns ads blocker. DNS-level ad blocking is not the same, it's much worse, nor is that actually a part of the browser > I would assume Chrome on Android has something similar, extensions support? There are no extensions on Chrome on Android

> There are no extensions on Chrome on Android

Surprised to hear that. But still they compare it to Firefox, which is untrue.

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by jeroenhd »

amatecha wrote: post #56
jeroenhd wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla does the same thing. Their website is loaded with trackers, and for security reasons, parts of their website can't be controlled by addons like uBlock. I have a strong suspicion their "install Firefox on your smart thermostat" popups that show up every time it updates itself are also part of their tracking solution, because there's no easy way to opt out of those and they sure contain a boatload of trackers.…

I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or GETs to tracking APIs either, that I can see. Not sure what you're referring to, but this is the most privacy-respecting webpage I've been to in a long time. Same thing going to mozilla.org . I'm not seeing any tiny hint of what you're describing.

Well, I'll be damned, they actually removed their trackers! That's great to see!

I still get URLs like https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.../whatsnew/?oldversi...... opening up with every update, though, despite having everything under "Firefox Data Collection and Use" disabled. I don't know what data this request is logging (seems to be just "firefox-desktop", oldversion and the new version, but I can't tell if they track anything else (language, IP address, etc.). I wish I could just disable these popups without digging through about:config (which I thought I had already done).

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by krono »

amatecha wrote: post #56
jeroenhd wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla does the same thing. Their website is loaded with trackers, and for security reasons, parts of their website can't be controlled by addons like uBlock. I have a strong suspicion their "install Firefox on your smart thermostat" popups that show up every time it updates itself are also part of their tracking solution, because there's no easy way to opt out of those and they sure contain a boatload of trackers.…

I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or GETs to tracking APIs either, that I can see. Not sure what you're referring to, but this is the most privacy-respecting webpage I've been to in a long time. Same thing going to mozilla.org . I'm not seeing any tiny hint of what you're describing.

This is entirely false, you must be blocking the requests on the network level or something.

For one the getfirefox.com redirect includes tracking parameters in the destination URL, then there's Google Tag Manager, there is Sentry, some pages with their first party analytics solutions like Glean and more.

Re: Show HN: Quetta – A privacy-first web browser with enhanced ad blocker inside

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Post by amatecha »

krono wrote: post #59
amatecha wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just went to getfirefox.com (with no ad-blocking or anything). There are no hits to any Google or Doubleclick domain. In fact, there are also no XHR's or GETs to tracking APIs either, that I can see. Not sure what you're referring to, but this is the most privacy-respecting webpage I've been to in a long time. Same thing going to mozilla.org . I'm not seeing any tiny hint of what you're describing.

This is entirely false, you must be blocking the requests on the network level or something. For one the getfirefox.com redirect includes tracking parameters in the destination URL, then there's Google Tag Manager, there is Sentry, some pages with their first party analytics solutions like Glean and more.

I installed uBlock Origin, with my Privacy settings set to normal/default, and there is nothing blocked (normally the plugin would show a long list of blocked analytics stuff). No clue, are you using Firefox as well? Not sure what the difference is with our experiences, but I see not a shred of Google or analytics-related network requests when I navigate to getfirefox.com . It DOES have a query param in the destination URL that suggests tracking, but it never does anything with it (???) https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/?redirect_source=g... ... I'm investigating further and I see that the page itself loads a self-hosted Google Tag Manager .js, but it looks like it has code that respects the "do not track" setting in my browser, but oddly I don't even have that enabled (woops)! Strange, no idea what's different for me. I'll try on another machine just to compare!
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