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Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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Overall, nice. But it immediately hits a pet peeve of mine: requiring an in-app purchase to enable native features built into my device’s OS. In this case, $6 US for dark mode.

At $6, you really are not paying to use the dark mode, you are paying to appreciate the value it brings to you, nobody is forcing you to use the app.

Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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This is quite cool, but I'm wondering why we need to re-invent the wheel for all those threaded discussion platforms. The OG is definitely email. What would really rock would be an IMAP gateway which you subscribe to with your favorite email client which then gives you threading, read/unread markers etc. It could abstract different front-page days as folders and each submission as the root of a thread. Then you could…

I've been using an incredibly stupid bash script to do this; you've finally given me the push to publish it here: https://github.com/krsiehl/hn2mdir

Run mkdir -p /path/to/some/directory/{cur,new,tmp}, then ./hn2mdir.bash /path/to/some/directory/, and it'll crawl Algolia's HN API to dump a bunch of emails, one for each post/comment. You can read it with mutt -f /path/to/some/directory. Syncing with IMAP left as an exercise to the reader (I'm using mbsync).

Note that it gets large, fast, and may break your IMAP server; I periodically run find ~/Mail/HN -type f -mtime +30 -delete to clear it out.

Edit: should clarify, this is read-only, I've never bothered to set up any kind of response functionality

Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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Overall, nice. But it immediately hits a pet peeve of mine: requiring an in-app purchase to enable native features built into my device’s OS. In this case, $6 US for dark mode.

apple has a rule against charging for platform-default available features

Dark mode is not a platform-default available feature. It's a setting in the OS that tells apps that you may prefer a darker variant, but it's still up to the app to implement the work required to make that happen. That is a feature of the app and can be charged for, hence why he does it and the app is still in the app store approved.

Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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This is quite cool, but I'm wondering why we need to re-invent the wheel for all those threaded discussion platforms. The OG is definitely email. What would really rock would be an IMAP gateway which you subscribe to with your favorite email client which then gives you threading, read/unread markers etc. It could abstract different front-page days as folders and each submission as the root of a thread. Then you could…

For me the OG for threaded discussions is Usenet.

I remember reading threads using a UI like this (not my screenshot but this is the client I used, MacSOUP): http://www.fen-net.de/mac/bilder/macsoup/Thread.gif There were also keyboard shortcuts to make navigating efficient.

Having a Usenet gateway seems like it would make a lot more sense from a technical standpoint than an email gateway

Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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The fact that this isn't grubby subscription pricing immediately puts this app on my radar as something worth buying. I was steeling myself to write it off as soon as I saw the "in-app purchases" section. I'll agree that charging $6 for dark mode does come off as nickel-and-diming. Honestly, I'd have avoided a free version and just made the basic price at least $6, one-time, with options for larger donations to the d…

> I'd have avoided a free version and just made the basic price at least $6 I would definitely get less heat, but the user would paradoxically end up in a worse position. I feel like there's always a disconnect between the user and developer when it comes to a freemium model. Developer thinks that it's a paid app that the user can actually try and make an informed decision before buying. User thinks that it's a free…

As a user, I've found utility in apps that offer all features and customizations for free, but reset your preferences every time you start the app. It's like a demo except it never stops working and you can see the maximum amount of value the app can provide you.

Re: Show HN: I made an iOS HN app to navigate large threads without getting lost

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get annoyed by these things too based on some sort of perceived cost/value of the feature being available and implemented, but paygated. Id rather just have a “donate $6 to help dev” in app purchase as it seems more authentic. However, maybe there are really people who think dark mode is worth $6. Kids raised on Roblox seem to have no ethical issue with paying $5 for a digital hat that is just flipping a bit.

>>donate $6 to help dev No other profession probably degrades themselves as much as developers. If his app is worth it, people would pay or else they don't. No developer need to beg for money if they are good at their craft.

Agreed, no one who sells chairs will make them for free then ask for a $X "donation." But somehow people think devs should make their own stuff free too and ask for donations. If you like the product at a given price, buy it, and if you don't like either, don't buy it, same as any other good.

And people will pay $60 for physical items but balk at $0.99 apps and digital goods, it's strange.

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