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Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by swah »

zokier wrote: post #45
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

The ergo community loves their 40% keyboards. The reasoning is that your fingers can not reach large number of keys anyways without moving the whole hand, and by eliminating the hand/wrist movement you can be more ergonomic even if it leads to more keypresses. Same thinking can be applied to speed too, hand repositioning and finger-stretching are not fast things to do, so concentrating functionality near home positio…

I thought the ergo community loved their split, ortho, big ass keyboards? I just bought an used Kinesis (the simple one though), love to see if it improves my wrist pain.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by criddell »

wlesieutre wrote: post #40
criddell wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any slabtop’s still being made? All of those that you listed are discontinued. I do like the idea of having a very small, limited OS. I’ve often thought I’d love an updated Psion 5. With modern batteries and displays, you should be able to get months out of a set of batteries or battery charge.

Clockwork makes several https://www.clockworkpi.com/shop https://www.abortretry.fail/p/review-of-the-clockwork-pi-dev... R-01 is particular interesting for having a RISC-V processor

Thanks for linking the review.

That machine sounds great except the battery life. 6 hours? Why can’t it be 600 or even 6000 hours? The Model 100 came out 40 years ago and could go 20 hours on smaller batteries!

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by zokier »

swah wrote: post #51
zokier wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ergo community loves their 40% keyboards. The reasoning is that your fingers can not reach large number of keys anyways without moving the whole hand, and by eliminating the hand/wrist movement you can be more ergonomic even if it leads to more keypresses. Same thinking can be applied to speed too, hand repositioning and finger-stretching are not fast things to do, so concentrating functionality near home positio…

I thought the ergo community loved their split, ortho, big ass keyboards? I just bought an used Kinesis (the simple one though), love to see if it improves my wrist pain.

I see lot of love for Corne (and similar) keyboards, and 3.6k GH stars attest to that: https://github.com/foostan/crkbd

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by Moldoteck »

mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

i guess the secret is learning blind typing and always use the same layout like querty/dvorak/colemak

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by ZiiS »

mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

Actually this one is really cleaver. The keys you see are actually a full QWERTY in the normal layout so no memorizing chords for typing English. [Shift] is just long-pressing Z so you are not completely confounding your muscle memory. Numbers and arrows being behind a fn key seems a good trade off for the space saved. So really only `[];',/` are become chords to match `{}:@?` on a full keyboard.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by unwind »

This was very good-looking, and a good write-up!

I don't know the author's background in (practical) electronics work, but as an embedded developer and long-time hobbyist: obviously there are solutions for de-soldering things that don't involve dremeling them to atomic dust. I'm just saying.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by wlesieutre »

drBonkers wrote: post #44
wlesieutre wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clockwork makes several https://www.clockworkpi.com/shop https://www.abortretry.fail/p/review-of-the-clockwork-pi-dev... R-01 is particular interesting for having a RISC-V processor

Do you know of any with normal sized keys?

I don't

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by inhumantsar »

zokier wrote: post #45
mk_stjames wrote: post #24

I like the slab form factors (One of my first portable computers was a Tandy Model 100) but I cannot understand how someone uses a keyboard that ...doesn't have at least all the letters and numbers and period/backslash/colon etc... especially for programming! I mean I get by reading a bit from the hackaday post that there are combos or 'chords' and so I guess you are meant to memorize these chord claw combinations fo…

The ergo community loves their 40% keyboards. The reasoning is that your fingers can not reach large number of keys anyways without moving the whole hand, and by eliminating the hand/wrist movement you can be more ergonomic even if it leads to more keypresses. Same thinking can be applied to speed too, hand repositioning and finger-stretching are not fast things to do, so concentrating functionality near home positio…

What are you basing this on? Every serious ergo keyboard I've seen is a split keyboard.

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by zokier »

criddell wrote: post #52
wlesieutre wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clockwork makes several https://www.clockworkpi.com/shop https://www.abortretry.fail/p/review-of-the-clockwork-pi-dev... R-01 is particular interesting for having a RISC-V processor

Thanks for linking the review. That machine sounds great except the battery life. 6 hours? Why can’t it be 600 or even 6000 hours? The Model 100 came out 40 years ago and could go 20 hours on smaller batteries!

I suspect that display is one of the biggest bottlenecks if attempting to build a more power-optimized device.

There are still some low-power cyberdecks around, like https://hackaday.io/project/184340-potatop

Re: Show HN: I built my first Cyberdeck

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Post by zokier »

inhumantsar wrote: post #58
zokier wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ergo community loves their 40% keyboards. The reasoning is that your fingers can not reach large number of keys anyways without moving the whole hand, and by eliminating the hand/wrist movement you can be more ergonomic even if it leads to more keypresses. Same thinking can be applied to speed too, hand repositioning and finger-stretching are not fast things to do, so concentrating functionality near home positio…

What are you basing this on? Every serious ergo keyboard I've seen is a split keyboard.

I'm just grouping in general 34-48ish key keyboards into "40%" category regardless if they are split or not or something in between. So popular designs such as Corne falls in there.
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