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Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by rvavruch » Sun, May 07, 2023, 9:52 AM UTC

csydas wrote: post #50

rvavruch wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair question. I did read the TOCs, and studied the current TOCs of Imgur as well as my hosting company to make sure Haasie's covered the most important aspects. Imgur atm still allows for NSFW, although presumably this will change. But as it stands the contents of these TOCs are not dissimilar from Imgur's or any other file hosts that allow for NSFW content. To clarify Haasie is not intended to be a specifically NSF…

thanks for the answer :) really, not trying to "gotcha", just was curious if your read of your current TOC was compatible with your goals. I didn't meant to indicate you were exclusively looking for nsfw (but I see how what I wrote implied it), just more a coffee thought while reading this thread :) good luck on the project!

Thanks! I'm glad someone read the T&Cs after all the effort I put into them. :)

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by carlosjobim » Tue, May 09, 2023, 4:00 AM UTC

flangola7 wrote: post #5

quickthrower2 wrote: post #2

First off: great work! The age old question is how you afford to run this, and how if you get popular do you not become an imgur yourself and have their same pressures to delete, moderate and make money.

I say we need basic universal internet infrastructure in the same way we have roads, libraries, hospitals, mail service, etc. Fundamental services like email, image and video hosting, backup storage, small cloud nodes, and so on. All partially or fully publicly funded, with no bloat or wasted overhead trying to commercialize it into an advertising platform filled with spyware and dark patterns.

Or people could pay the pittance that it would be if just a fraction of users chipped in. Why is "the government should pay for it" always a comment in every thread on HN? Is there something I haven't understood about this community.

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by groby_b » Thu, May 11, 2023, 3:37 AM UTC

wincy wrote: post #27

groby_b wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't because some people hosted extremely popular files (often starting with p- and ending in -orn) on the few GB that your local ISP gave you. And your local ISP suddenly needed to serve hundreds of terabytes they didn't have in their peering budget. So now you need caps. And enforcement. And exceptions. And suddenly, you have a cloud service provider. And they've invested a ton into making the place nice, and…

Sorry what is PG&E? I googled it, is this a reference to the power company in California? I don’t live in California so am not sure. I thought initially maybe it was some acronym for Privatize Gains and Externalize losses?

Yep, the California power company. There's a whole long saga, but the short of it is that California decided to privatize electricity companies, that horribly imploded, and in the long run we ended up with a quasi-monopoly for a horrible company that's so bad at maintenance, they set the state on fire on a regular basis.

But sure, privatize gains and externalize losses works too :)

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by groby_b » Thu, May 11, 2023, 3:38 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #37

groby_b wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't because some people hosted extremely popular files (often starting with p- and ending in -orn) on the few GB that your local ISP gave you. And your local ISP suddenly needed to serve hundreds of terabytes they didn't have in their peering budget. So now you need caps. And enforcement. And exceptions. And suddenly, you have a cloud service provider. And they've invested a ton into making the place nice, and…

Shouldn't a whole bunch of upload bandwidth even out the traffic flows and make such an ISP a better candidate for peering?

Yes, but it's still not free. It's especially not free if it's unexpected load.

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by flangola7 » Thu, May 11, 2023, 6:38 PM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #52

flangola7 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I say we need basic universal internet infrastructure in the same way we have roads, libraries, hospitals, mail service, etc. Fundamental services like email, image and video hosting, backup storage, small cloud nodes, and so on. All partially or fully publicly funded, with no bloat or wasted overhead trying to commercialize it into an advertising platform filled with spyware and dark patterns.

Or people could pay the pittance that it would be if just a fraction of users chipped in. Why is "the government should pay for it" always a comment in every thread on HN? Is there something I haven't understood about this community.

> Or people could pay the pittance that it would be if just a fraction of users chipped in.

If only there was some way to gather and organize this rich fraction of users' contributions. Maybe we could create some kind of assembly where we discuss and vote on how to do so.

>Why is "the government should pay for it" always a comment in every thread on HN? Is there something I haven't understood about this community.

Because the purpose of government is to organize and manage society and that requires funds to do so? I'm not sure how to answer such a simple question with such a self-evident answer. How old are you?