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Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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I hope no one actually trusts that for real answers, just based on what we've seen it try to do already.

Lol just yesterday I saw an eight year old answer on SO neatly solving my problem, except the API was hallucinated. Humans have been hallucinating APIs for far longer.

> the API was hallucinated

If the answer is from 8 years ago, did the API change between then and now? Or was the answer for the same version that you are using?

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Did you fix it?

You need a lot of karma to edit other peoples answers, don’t you?

And for the edit queue not to be full. So yes, basically the stars have to align :p

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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> An AI would be just as good, if it had decently accurate answers. Well, this reminds me of "if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle." Failing to clean up bad questions is encouraging all the bad behavior you're talking about, since answering yet another question from someone who couldn't be bothered to write his own regex is an easy 25 points that nobody will ever look at again.

Does it help any of the issues I mentioned? Or would those people be happier if they just had their questions answered? The answerers with their karma; happy! The askers with their answers: happy. The only “losers” are people who hoard their karma… because (I guess?) now other people are getting karma? …and I just do not care about those people.

Well, you said you were dissatisfied that people were avoiding challenging questions in favor of karma farming easy ones. Failing to prune lazy questions with no value to other users incentivizes that exact behavior because hard questions don't usually have a better payoff.

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I mostly no longer contribute to stack overflow. I don’t ask questions, because people take a very carefully explained, explicit question and post irrelevant stupid comments on it (“why are you doing this?”) instead of answering the question. I don’t answer questions, because people upvote wrong answers and vindictively downvote answers to the actual question (which is why everyone posts comments instead of answering…

> An AI would be just as good, if it had decently accurate answers. Well, this reminds me of "if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle." Failing to clean up bad questions is encouraging all the bad behavior you're talking about, since answering yet another question from someone who couldn't be bothered to write his own regex is an easy 25 points that nobody will ever look at again.

It's a gargantuan task to clean up low quality post and fight back low quality copy paste blog spam from a community that has become resume padding for the masses.

The community has spoken, to the extent whether the majority of usage becomes the defacto standard, and basically filtered out all but the most basic coding issues that are just one peg above homework assignments.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Lol just yesterday I saw an eight year old answer on SO neatly solving my problem, except the API was hallucinated. Humans have been hallucinating APIs for far longer.

Did you fix it?

No, I scoured the API surface and the functionality simply isn’t exposed, so the question has no answer. There was already a comment pointing out the answer’s wrong.

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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Lol just yesterday I saw an eight year old answer on SO neatly solving my problem, except the API was hallucinated. Humans have been hallucinating APIs for far longer.

> the API was hallucinated If the answer is from 8 years ago, did the API change between then and now? Or was the answer for the same version that you are using?

It didn’t change, the functionality was never there. The API only ever existed in that answer, otherwise a Microsoft API would have left traces elsewhere on the Internet.

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Everybody got what they wanted and it’s much “nicer” now (it won’t even let you comment “what have you tried?” anymore, for instance). Wouldn’t you know it, the front page is now full of low-quality, low-effort questions.

And yet I have no issues finding answers to my question when using a search engine. I'm sure if a slippery slope is detected, SO will change its policy back.

Most of the timeless answers were given 5 years ago though.

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And yet I have no issues finding answers to my question when using a search engine. I'm sure if a slippery slope is detected, SO will change its policy back.

Why are you sure of that? They're all the way down the damn slope at this point, there's no cleaning it up. But ownership's metrics are not mine necessarily.

They want the platform to survive, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered listening to user feedback. Either way, I'm happy to see they are doing something about how toxic SO is. The community has certainly earned its reputation. I for one don't think being an asshole is the only way to drive down noise.

I'm kind of curious, because I've heard the line of reasoning about keeping it "clean" multiple times. Like its only purpose is to be a pristine knowledge base where every question is asked only once, and a perfect answer is selected and enshrined for all time. That's all wonderful and magical, but how does also serving it's purpose as a QA platform for new people on the struggle bus prevent that first goal?

Re: Show HN: StackOverflow.gg – AI-generated answers to every coding question

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> An AI would be just as good, if it had decently accurate answers. Well, this reminds me of "if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle." Failing to clean up bad questions is encouraging all the bad behavior you're talking about, since answering yet another question from someone who couldn't be bothered to write his own regex is an easy 25 points that nobody will ever look at again.

It's a gargantuan task to clean up low quality post and fight back low quality copy paste blog spam from a community that has become resume padding for the masses. The community has spoken, to the extent whether the majority of usage becomes the defacto standard, and basically filtered out all but the most basic coding issues that are just one peg above homework assignments.

Well, I wouldn’t say it was the community speaking. This is what the operators wanted because the old way was not “welcoming” enough and didn’t contribute enough to growth. Hey, it’s a business. I get it.

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Why are you sure of that? They're all the way down the damn slope at this point, there's no cleaning it up. But ownership's metrics are not mine necessarily.

They want the platform to survive, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered listening to user feedback. Either way, I'm happy to see they are doing something about how toxic SO is. The community has certainly earned its reputation. I for one don't think being an asshole is the only way to drive down noise. I'm kind of curious, because I've heard the line of reasoning about keeping it "clean" multiple times. Like its onl…

You won’t be able to find the useful questions because they’re buried under garbage. This problem is papered over by a lot of high-rep old answers but it’s going to look longer and longer in the tooth as those get dated. The platform “surviving” is orthogonal to it being what its original users were looking for.
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