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Re: Show HN: AI generated Magic The Gathering cards

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Post by Izkata »

latexr wrote: post #34
TimPC wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also you found an error. “Your opponent” is not valid in the language of M:TG it needs to be “target opponent” because “your opponent” is not well defined outside of two-player games.

There are examples of MTG cards referring to a single opponent in old editions[1], digital editions[2], and Un-sets[3]. [1]: https://scryfall.com/card/leg/6/clergy-of-the-holy-nimbus [2]: https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/14/clone-crafter [3]: https://scryfall.com/card/ugl/62/gus

I swear I also remember some burn spells that target a creature and then also deal damage to that creature's controller. I'd guess the wording came from trying to combine that with something else.

Re: Show HN: AI generated Magic The Gathering cards

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Post by cptcobalt »

kimixa wrote: post #40
chc4 wrote: post #5

There was a very popular Twitter account that was tweeting out a similar concept (starting way back in 2015, even!) https://twitter.com/RoboRosewater LoadingReadyRun, a very popular MTG YouTube channel, even did a cube draft using only cards that were generated by RoboRosewater that I thought was funny to watch https://youtu.be/UuG5YLbwsQk

Just last week they did another with a new set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbqS7PXKFhc This was created by people on the MTG Neural Net Discord - if you're interested it might be worth checking out https://discord.gg/EH4BTDk

My husband and I play MTG (and do some speculative card investments on the side) and have been cracking up while slowly making our way through the LRR vod for this new AI Masters cube. So much great stuff.

Re: Show HN: AI generated Magic The Gathering cards

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Post by thebean11 »

feoren wrote: post #37
JRKrause wrote: post #22

There is a popular discord (PlayEDH) where people play MTG over webcam against one another. Due to the nature of MTG it's important that the deck each player is wielding be properly balanced in power level against each opponent. (For those unfamiliar, it's possible to construct highly efficient, and expensive, MTG decks that trigger game-winning infinite combos within 1-4 turns. There's a continuous scale of deck eff…

I don't feel like this is a good application of predictive networks, but maybe I'm wrong. Tiny changes in wording of a card can make or break an exploitable synergy. You can say "tigers basically look like this, ish" to an image recognizer, but you can't just say "decks that look kinda like this are super strong; decks that look kinda like that are super weak". I'd think the best approach here would be to have an age…

Magic the Gathering cards have pretty standard and predictable wording and keywords. Not sure it could understand everything, but there would be easy patterns that apply to hundreds or thousands of cards.

Re: Show HN: AI generated Magic The Gathering cards

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

Zircom wrote: post #31
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #21

This is really cool! I noticed a few things you might be interested in: It looks like there might be issues rendering mana costs that have, e.g., 1GG where it does not render the second G. That is to say, it's rendered but only the barest left edge can be seen. This appears to only be the case if the card's name is sufficiently long (I noticed this with "Bethen, Cenn's Heavenly Sleep"). That being said, I have no ide…

>Exile it at the beginning of the next end step or if it would leave the battlefield [the latter half is redundant with it being a token]. It's not necessarily redundant or useless, there are some cards that will trigger off exiling permanents, or count the number of permanents that have been exiled during the turn to change how powerful an ability is, so if it was destroyed in battle or kill-spelled and instead exil…

Oh, that makes sense. It doesn't technically exile when it's removed from the battlefield; there's just nothing to come back.

Thanks for the clarification!

To explain my position a bit more, I was considering, e.g., Restoration Angel but that's still moot with your point.

Re: Show HN: AI generated Magic The Gathering cards

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Post by TheDauthi »

Izkata wrote: post #52
latexr wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are examples of MTG cards referring to a single opponent in old editions[1], digital editions[2], and Un-sets[3]. [1]: https://scryfall.com/card/leg/6/clergy-of-the-holy-nimbus [2]: https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/14/clone-crafter [3]: https://scryfall.com/card/ugl/62/gus

I swear I also remember some burn spells that target a creature and then also deal damage to that creature's controller. I'd guess the wording came from trying to combine that with something else.

Yep, Chandra's Outrage, for example.

"Chandra's Outrage deals 4 damage to target creature and 2 damage to that creature's controller."

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