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Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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I like the idea but it seems rather US-centric currently. I'm finding it almost impossible to filter by London, UK - a whole load of other locations containing 'London' across the US show up instead. Similarly, trying to reposition the map to London requires a lot of scrolling of the map, because I can't zoom out far enough to see enough of the globe. As it stands it's very difficult for me to use unfortunately, but…

Likewise, looking for C jobs in Waterloo, Canada shunts me over to Austin, TX for some reason.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

#52
post #9

I feel like lately something weird is happening to the industry. I interviewed some people lately during the past few months to fill a couple of react jobs, and it looks like people is really giving a lot of fucks to the tech stack and technology they use, like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing and also they keep learning framework and library without…

> like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing

In general that is not necessarily bad, it can be a good thing.

> they keep learning framework and library without caring about software principle, architectural or design patterns or security best practice

My guess here is that it is a way to get into more interviews. Many job openings today lists a ton of libraries and frameworks that you should have experience with, thus the market reacts(!) accordingly.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #9

I feel like lately something weird is happening to the industry. I interviewed some people lately during the past few months to fill a couple of react jobs, and it looks like people is really giving a lot of fucks to the tech stack and technology they use, like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing and also they keep learning framework and library without…

From my experience hiring and mentoring, I reckon a lot has to do with how (overly) complex stacks for web application development have gotten. Thus people often having to learn in a very top down way, learning the very high level tools first and have little understanding of what lies beneath. There is also at least the perception that there are a ton of those high level things you need to understand for being a "fullstack" dev and it is also this top layer that actually moves fast, whereas the fundamentals move in a much more glacial manner. People chasing changes and additions instead of deepening their knowledge.

If I compare that to my own experience learning web dev in the early 2000s on my own. Make a html file with some css and ftp it up to a server. First version done. Add some JS, some PHP, then a database. Eventually move from vanilla code to different frameworks and languages, move from a Linux box to some cloud services, slowly start working with more complex systems and different paradigms. The whole process was very iterative and I feel I have gotten a lot of transferable knowledge on the way.

Of course this is perfectly possible to do these days as well, but it is not what I see happening or being widely encouraged in communities or fostered within companies. It seems more about run this and that generator script, click this button to spin up the managed services to run it on. See, it is so easy, so no problem. Creating hundreds of dependencies and layers of abstraction with practically no idea what they do. I had people wanting to learn programming from zero asking me to help with issues with their docker setup before having written a nested for loop.

I'm definitely not against those "modern" tools, they can be an awesome productivity boost if used well in the right context, but I can't help but often feel reminded of the good old Jurassic Park quote when it comes to tech stack decision making: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #30

I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? I'd rather search by that and then see what their tech stack looks like and filter down to the ones…

I don't care one mote about solving problems. I program because it's fun and I'm good at it, so I have no space for bullshit MBA puff like "solving problems" (it's not) "making people's lives better with technology" (it never has or will). So for me working in a place where I get to use the tools I enjoy is more important than whatever flavor of the week justification is given for the rent we are seeking from and new…

Its not so much that I need someone to try to sell me that I’m changing the world instead of making a paycheck. But I definitely would rather clean toilets for a cause I love than work with cool tech on a project I don’t believe in or that doesn’t ever go anywhere.

When I was younger my family was really big into riding ATVs. At first it was cool, but then I started to realize we were just going to drive in the same circles at the same parks forever and it lost all meaning to me. ATVs are cool, I still think they are, but without a reason to ride one I can’t imagine spending a weekend in a tent driving around in circles. At the same time I know plenty of people who live for that, so I recognize that we’re all looking for our own things.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #9

I feel like lately something weird is happening to the industry. I interviewed some people lately during the past few months to fill a couple of react jobs, and it looks like people is really giving a lot of fucks to the tech stack and technology they use, like I feel like there are now a lot of people who are knowledgeable of everything but master of nothing and also they keep learning framework and library without…

Playing devil's advocate, does it matter if she doesn't know what OWASP is specifically, if she has good security principles and designs secure systems? Saying "What's OWASP 10?" seems like a heuristic question rather than just trying to investigate what you're actually looking for - are they going to write shitty insecure code. I can say plenty of people will right secure code having never heard of OWASP, and plenty of people write terrible code with OWASP cheat sheets saved to their desktop.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #30

I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? I'd rather search by that and then see what their tech stack looks like and filter down to the ones…

It’s almost like people choose companies based on different factors.

Some are coin-operated. Some are language/stack-driven. Some want fast-growing; some want slow-and-steady. Others like small companies. Others like large stable companies.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #30

I feel like this is completely backwards. To me this feels like 'I love using this kind of hammer so let me find all the jobs where I can use this hammer I love to use.' I'm actually not interested (at least not primarily interested) in that. I'm more interested in what are you building? What problems are you solving? I'd rather search by that and then see what their tech stack looks like and filter down to the ones…

> Focusing on technology feels like putting the cart before the horse.

Every language has its own ecosystem, its own frameworks, its own culture its own set of "best practices". Good luck learning them all.

Re: Show HN: Find companies with jobs using technologies you love

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't care one mote about solving problems. I program because it's fun and I'm good at it, so I have no space for bullshit MBA puff like "solving problems" (it's not) "making people's lives better with technology" (it never has or will). So for me working in a place where I get to use the tools I enjoy is more important than whatever flavor of the week justification is given for the rent we are seeking from and new…

If software does not solve problems, what are you getting paid for, exactly? For the weight of the line of code?

What is a plumber paid for? You tell him you'd like a sink installed somewhere and he installs it. He isn't paid more if the sink is used to wash the hands of surgeons operating on orphans or never used it all. He is paid on the basis of, you want a sink and he knows how to install them.
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