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Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by grepfru_it »

hectorm wrote: post #18
grepfru_it wrote: post #15

Questions about this implementation's legality? Liability? Security? https://github.com/hectorm/docker-qemu-win2000/blob/master/D... Makes me think this is done as a POC, but definitely fork a local copy as you can just swap that line out with your local copy of a Win2k ISO

Effectively this is done as a POC, don't expect any security on a machine running Windows 2000 nowadays. Regarding legality, I hope that Microsoft doesn't claim any rights, since the Windows 2000 image has been published in WinWorld for years without issues.

Careful with your claims. What is the supply chain of that win2k iso? You could be compromised before you even begin.

Just because it is past EOL doesn’t mean you chuck all security best practices out the window.

“Oh well it’s end of life, might as well store passwords in plaintext”

Microsoft still owns copyright on Win2k, so you could be met with a cease and desist or you could be liable for infringement.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by arpa »

cool! I've never considered running qemu in a container. This project is a matroska on actual windows systems, as docker runs/used to run in VM (has WSL changed that?). So VM->Docker->VM. You could probably also run windows-something that supports Docker and run the same image. Oh this gives me baaaaad ideas. Thank you, OP

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by heyoni »

schwartzworld wrote: post #32
voakbasda wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that bing.com does not load using their own browser speaks volumes about Microsoft.

Using their own outdated, unsupported browser? Why should they develop websites against a 22 year old browser version?

On the one hand, it’s a sign of technical prowess to be able to accommodate browsers going that far back.

On the other, it’s kind of embarrassing not to have a barebones version of your website load in case an old browser is detected. IE5 had Ajax after all, what more does a search box really need? The answer? Endless tracking and cookies and phoning home. God forbid someone uses a browser we can’t use to collect infinite metrics.

Makes me wonder, does bing work with lynx?

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by xxpor »

argsv wrote: post #23

I just ran this on a Fedora machine and connected to Windows using rdesktop. It works and it's amazing. I like it. The Internet will surely be confused today with a surge of traffic from Internet Explorer 5. Incidentally, google.com still loads and allows searching; bing.com does not load.

What're the most recent tls features IE5 supports? Does it even work with non-sha1 certs?

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by djbusby »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #43
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What volumes does it speak about microsoft?

I think it's ironic. Microsoft since the dawn of time has been known for backwards compatibility in Windows. They would go out of their way to ensure random 16 bit apps with bugs and major issues continued to work through years of major upgrades to Windows. Raymond Chen has written countless stories of the hacks upon hacks they had to keep running through the years: http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/images/9780321440303…

And just recently on here I was talking about how MS is known for backwards compat but we actually observe Linux doing it better

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by xxpor »

arpa wrote: post #52

cool! I've never considered running qemu in a container. This project is a matroska on actual windows systems, as docker runs/used to run in VM (has WSL changed that?). So VM->Docker->VM. You could probably also run windows-something that supports Docker and run the same image. Oh this gives me baaaaad ideas. Thank you, OP

WSL2 itself also runs in a VM

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by tinus_hn »

schwartzworld wrote: post #32
voakbasda wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that bing.com does not load using their own browser speaks volumes about Microsoft.

Using their own outdated, unsupported browser? Why should they develop websites against a 22 year old browser version?

I realize that it probably doesn’t pay, but it wouldn’t be that difficult to implement just a form to type queries and a basic html result page that works without javascript.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

#59

Post by xxpor »

grepfru_it wrote: post #51
hectorm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Effectively this is done as a POC, don't expect any security on a machine running Windows 2000 nowadays. Regarding legality, I hope that Microsoft doesn't claim any rights, since the Windows 2000 image has been published in WinWorld for years without issues.

Careful with your claims. What is the supply chain of that win2k iso? You could be compromised before you even begin. Just because it is past EOL doesn’t mean you chuck all security best practices out the window. “Oh well it’s end of life, might as well store passwords in plaintext” Microsoft still owns copyright on Win2k, so you could be met with a cease and desist or you could be liable for infringement.

If you connect windows 2000 to the internet, you're probably owned within a few minutes regardless. Similarly for xp pre-sp2.

Re: Show HN: Windows 2000 on Docker

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Post by djbusby »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #48
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Are we sure that's "good" news?

Absolutely.

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