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Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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As an aside, I'd like to recommend to people the Cambridge Latin Course ( https://www.cambridgescp.com/ ) This was the course I followed learning Latin in school. Whilst it may be tailored more towards a school audience, much of the content of their books is available for free online, which includes lots of translation and vocabulary practice. The books and stories are all very light-hearted and fun and teach a lot a…

Caecilius est in horto.

Caecilius in hortō sedet

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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As an aside, I'd like to recommend to people the Cambridge Latin Course ( https://www.cambridgescp.com/ ) This was the course I followed learning Latin in school. Whilst it may be tailored more towards a school audience, much of the content of their books is available for free online, which includes lots of translation and vocabulary practice. The books and stories are all very light-hearted and fun and teach a lot a…

I believe the other popular suggestion is Ørberg's Lingua Latīna:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_%C3%98rberg

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It's a pity English speakers are often taught the wrong (English based) pronunciation. For self study I also suggest reading Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, it's a book completely written in Latin that gets progressively more complex and guides you through the language in an utilitarian way.

I think Lingua Latina is an amazing book! PSA: you only need the first book. The second is pretty much a reader. It is still great, specially if you are interested in Classics. If you are interested in reading the Vulgate Bible or medieval works, you can go ahead with those after the first book. Medieval latin is significantly easier than classics, so it may even be worth you while going through those even before goi…

Agreed! That is unquestionably a great text for those who have access to it. Selfstudyclassics is aimed at those who might not have access to it, or who are looking for additional practice in the form of interactive exercises with explanations.

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If someone is interested in learning a new language for the hell of it, however your school days of learning that Caecilius was sitting in the garden fills you with dread, a really cool alternative is Lojban. It is a completely unambiguous language created by the Logical Language Group and has some pretty interesting elements that sit between software and non-computational linguistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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It's a pity English speakers are often taught the wrong (English based) pronunciation. For self study I also suggest reading Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, it's a book completely written in Latin that gets progressively more complex and guides you through the language in an utilitarian way.

I think Lingua Latina is an amazing book! PSA: you only need the first book. The second is pretty much a reader. It is still great, specially if you are interested in Classics. If you are interested in reading the Vulgate Bible or medieval works, you can go ahead with those after the first book. Medieval latin is significantly easier than classics, so it may even be worth you while going through those even before goi…

> PSA: you only need the first book.

If I go to Amazon, the "Frequently bought together" section has:

* This item:Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$39.05

* Exercitia Latina I: Exercises for Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$25.33

* Latine Disco, Student's Manual: Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$10.28

Is this a good combo?

It appears that the second book is Roma Aeterna: correct?

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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I think Lingua Latina is an amazing book! PSA: you only need the first book. The second is pretty much a reader. It is still great, specially if you are interested in Classics. If you are interested in reading the Vulgate Bible or medieval works, you can go ahead with those after the first book. Medieval latin is significantly easier than classics, so it may even be worth you while going through those even before goi…

> PSA: you only need the first book. If I go to Amazon, the "Frequently bought together" section has: * This item:Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$39.05 * Exercitia Latina I: Exercises for Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$25.33 * Latine Disco, Student's Manual: Familia Romana by Hans H. Ørberg Paperback CDN$10.28 Is this a good combo? It appears that the second book is Roma Aeterna : corre…

I do not own latine disco. I did work through exercitia latina I, and it is great! And yes, Roma Aeterna is the second book.

But you only need familia romana. Everything else is cherry on top, extremely useful if you want to write latin and it will help your learning a lot. However if you are strapped for cash, are not interested in writing, don't have lots of time, want to jump quickly into reading the Bible... Just go with familia romana.

Furthermore op is giving lots of exercises, so that makes exercitia less relevant.

But at the end of the day is your money and your choice. I am happy I have Roma Aeterna, but I did not finish it, and I read medieval works quite fluently. I just wanted to put that info out so everyone can make their best buying choice.

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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As an aside, I'd like to recommend to people the Cambridge Latin Course ( https://www.cambridgescp.com/ ) This was the course I followed learning Latin in school. Whilst it may be tailored more towards a school audience, much of the content of their books is available for free online, which includes lots of translation and vocabulary practice. The books and stories are all very light-hearted and fun and teach a lot a…

I believe the other popular suggestion is Ørberg's Lingua Latīna : * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_%C3%98rberg

Yes, several other commenters have made that suggestion, and I agree it is a good one. This tool is aimed at those interested in a public domain text, or people who using other tools who are looking for additional practice in the form of interactive exercises with explanations.

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Lingua Latina is an amazing book! PSA: you only need the first book. The second is pretty much a reader. It is still great, specially if you are interested in Classics. If you are interested in reading the Vulgate Bible or medieval works, you can go ahead with those after the first book. Medieval latin is significantly easier than classics, so it may even be worth you while going through those even before goi…

Agreed! That is unquestionably a great text for those who have access to it. Selfstudyclassics is aimed at those who might not have access to it, or who are looking for additional practice in the form of interactive exercises with explanations.

Oh, I was just riffing on the parent comment.

I've had a look at your tool and I think is great. It greatly complements Lingua Latina and it is an essential tool for someone going through the traditional path of learning latin.

I wish I had something like this when I was learning latin in highschool. Furthermore, anything that helps disseminate classics is great in my view.

Thanks for your contribution!

Re: Show HN: A Latin self study course, Khan Academy-style

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As an aside, I'd like to recommend to people the Cambridge Latin Course ( https://www.cambridgescp.com/ ) This was the course I followed learning Latin in school. Whilst it may be tailored more towards a school audience, much of the content of their books is available for free online, which includes lots of translation and vocabulary practice. The books and stories are all very light-hearted and fun and teach a lot a…

Also new this year for Lockdown, the Oak National Academy produced an intro course: https://classroom.thenational.academy/subjects-by-key-stage/...

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That particular sentence is a really tough knot pedagogically too. As a teacher, you want a short simple sentence that includes a nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, and verb to habituate students to thinking about cases. Unfortunately, in the first declension, the nominative plural, genitive singular, and and dative singular all look identical, hence the confusion here. Filiae and agricolae could be any of tho…

Actually this is an example of ambiguity, not context sensitivity (in the formal languages sense). Context sensitivity means context is needed to construct a grammatical sentence, not merely to parse one. It's actually pretty hard to find examples of this in natural language.

Judging by the paper linked sidethread, it's enough that some valid sentences cannot be constructed in a context-free way. Even if they can be losslessly transformed into alternative sentences which can be easily derived from a context-free grammar, their existence demonstrates that the language is not context-free.
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