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Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by voxl »

gramakri wrote: post #41
m_fayer wrote: post #19

I know many non-technical small-scale entrepreneurs who would love to use OSS self-hosted tools to run the basics of their businesses and get away from BigTech. I'm talking little shops, yoga studios, restaurants, recording studios, etc. All they need is basics - email, calendars, maybe some shift management, inventory management, and obviously documents. These people are completely non-technical and I don't know of…

Please give Cloudron ( https://cloudron.io ) a try. We provide a solution that makes it easy to self-host apps. We provide Ghost, Rainloop, Nextcloud, InvoiceNinja, GitLab, Rocket.Chat among other apps. Full list here - https://cloudron.io/store/index.html Disclaimer: I am the co-founder

$30 a month is too expensive for some of these tools (and perhaps too cheap for some of the others).

For instance, I run my own Nextcloud server for 10$/month, the amount of maintenance per month is 0 hours. Nextcloud has already provided a very simple installation setup using snap. It would be cheaper, in the long run, for someone to pay a contractor 300$ to setup a 10$/month droplet on Digital Ocean.

What I'm getting at is you may want to consider per app pricing as a customer is probably interested in a very specific app and thus will price check only for that app.

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by cooperadymas »

mynegation wrote: post #48
ridruejo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://bitnami.com/stacks helps quite a bit (disclaimer, I am the cofounder)

Question to people with better knowledge of English than me (or lawyers): what is the difference between disclaimer and disclosure? To me “I am a co-founder” sounds like a disclosure (of vested interest) and disclaimer would be something like “I am not a lawyer. I am not your lawyer. This is not a legal advice”

There might be a legal difference but in common parlance I see them frequently used interchangeably.

A disclosure reveals some previously unknown information, while a disclaimer renounces your responsibility for something.

So your example is correct, although "I am not a lawyer" could also be considered a disclosure.

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by rkwz »

gramakri wrote: post #41
m_fayer wrote: post #19

I know many non-technical small-scale entrepreneurs who would love to use OSS self-hosted tools to run the basics of their businesses and get away from BigTech. I'm talking little shops, yoga studios, restaurants, recording studios, etc. All they need is basics - email, calendars, maybe some shift management, inventory management, and obviously documents. These people are completely non-technical and I don't know of…

Please give Cloudron ( https://cloudron.io ) a try. We provide a solution that makes it easy to self-host apps. We provide Ghost, Rainloop, Nextcloud, InvoiceNinja, GitLab, Rocket.Chat among other apps. Full list here - https://cloudron.io/store/index.html Disclaimer: I am the co-founder

I recently launched freshlytics - selfhosted privacy respecting analytics.

Let me know if you’re interested in onboarding it into Cloudron :)

https://github.com/sheshbabu/freshlytics

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by MrZander »

yeswecatan wrote: post #54

Great list. I started using Firefly to track my finances back in October. Loving it so far.

How well does it integrate with other financial services? I currently just use Mint because it's the only app that can consistently pull in all my accounts into one place.

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by gramakri »

voxl wrote: post #51
gramakri wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please give Cloudron ( https://cloudron.io ) a try. We provide a solution that makes it easy to self-host apps. We provide Ghost, Rainloop, Nextcloud, InvoiceNinja, GitLab, Rocket.Chat among other apps. Full list here - https://cloudron.io/store/index.html Disclaimer: I am the co-founder

$30 a month is too expensive for some of these tools (and perhaps too cheap for some of the others). For instance, I run my own Nextcloud server for 10$/month, the amount of maintenance per month is 0 hours. Nextcloud has already provided a very simple installation setup using snap. It would be cheaper, in the long run, for someone to pay a contractor 300$ to setup a 10$/month droplet on Digital Ocean. What I'm getti…

I agree that the maintenance effort differs wildly per app. I don't actually agree that nextcloud is 0 effort post-setup. If you see our forums or the nextcloud forums, you will see how many questions are really just installation and update related.

We have so far not wanted to get into per-app pricing, because we see ourselves as app packagers and not providing support for the app itself. For example, we don't actually provide any support if Rocket.Chat's mobile app has some problem. Making it per-app pricing can mislead people into thinking we support the app. There is also the issue that we might be seen as competing with the app authors (if they have a SaaS model).

The 30 USD is essentially the price for automatic updates, backups, dns/tls management, deployment with security best practices etc. It is also a 'service' where you can contact us if something goes wrong. As you say, if you want to DIY/time is cheap, cloudron is expensive. That said, if you use the DO marketplace image, you get a 50% discount (you will see the discount coupon when setting up a subscription).

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by driverdan »

voxl wrote: post #51
gramakri wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please give Cloudron ( https://cloudron.io ) a try. We provide a solution that makes it easy to self-host apps. We provide Ghost, Rainloop, Nextcloud, InvoiceNinja, GitLab, Rocket.Chat among other apps. Full list here - https://cloudron.io/store/index.html Disclaimer: I am the co-founder

$30 a month is too expensive for some of these tools (and perhaps too cheap for some of the others). For instance, I run my own Nextcloud server for 10$/month, the amount of maintenance per month is 0 hours. Nextcloud has already provided a very simple installation setup using snap. It would be cheaper, in the long run, for someone to pay a contractor 300$ to setup a 10$/month droplet on Digital Ocean. What I'm getti…

$30/m seems quite reasonable. If a business can't afford $30/m you probably don't want them as a client. A single support ticket a month will kill your margins.

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by thrownaway954 »

voxl wrote: post #51
gramakri wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please give Cloudron ( https://cloudron.io ) a try. We provide a solution that makes it easy to self-host apps. We provide Ghost, Rainloop, Nextcloud, InvoiceNinja, GitLab, Rocket.Chat among other apps. Full list here - https://cloudron.io/store/index.html Disclaimer: I am the co-founder

$30 a month is too expensive for some of these tools (and perhaps too cheap for some of the others). For instance, I run my own Nextcloud server for 10$/month, the amount of maintenance per month is 0 hours. Nextcloud has already provided a very simple installation setup using snap. It would be cheaper, in the long run, for someone to pay a contractor 300$ to setup a 10$/month droplet on Digital Ocean. What I'm getti…

I don't even think it's that... installing this thing would scare most people away:

https://cloudron.io/get.html

Anything involving the command line is considered advanced knowledge for most people, so targeting your product to the novice is a miss.

Re: Show HN: A searchable list of self-hosted software with screenshots

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Post by anderspitman »

This looks really nice.

In principle, I'm a big advocate of self-hosting (one of my services is even on this list). In practice, it just doesn't work for me. Once I get beyond 2-3 services it's just too much hassle to keep track of everything.

The key realization for me is that I don't actually care too much where the software is running, or who is running it for me. What I do care about is a avoiding vendor lock-in. As long as I have a reasonable escape hatch if my service company starts doing things I don't like, that's good enough. This keeps them honest. My issue with the current crop of monoliths like Google services is that there's no obvious migration path if you get fed up with them, so you're pretty much stuck with them no matter how crappy their software or customer service is/gets.

That's why I think something like sandstorm.io or cloudron is the future of self-hosting, at least in the near future. Maybe eventually we'll have a substrate of simple protocols and practices that will make it reasonable to manage everything yourself, but we're not there yet.

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