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Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by nodesocket »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #18

Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

Not only is suggesting that this project change its name, but that the oath keepers are a racist extremist group are both absurd. From a little reading and watching of YouTube news clips it was quite easy to see that 2nd amendment and constitutional politics are not the same as racsim and extremist groups. The oath keepers have African American members.

It's the same smear campaign that real extremist groups (the Marxist identity politics left) do to Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by mderazon »

jiveturkey wrote: post #35
ibuildoss wrote: post #2

The idea of the ory ecosystem ( https://github.com/ory / https://www.ory.am ) is to build a reliable, cloud native suite of tools which allow you to solve simple and complex IAM (identity and access management) use cases. Each service works standalone, but you can obviously combine them all. The Oathkeeper proxy is one piece of the puzzle which basically takes incoming HTTP requests, evaluates them on a set of rules…

> solve simple and complex IAM really great. please comment on the intersection with auth0. clearly there is some overlap, it would be great to have a concise explanation. > we do not want to reinvent the wheel IMHO, were I you I would not shy away from that. Existing wheels are oval in shape. Of course where you have to interoperate, you are limited. > ps: New account because I lost my password and didn't set up a b…

A bit extreme don't you think ? He's human and people lose access to old accounts from time to time...

Has nothing to do with the fact he's developing auth software.

Besides, HN does not do oauth. If it did and he would still lose access then it's a different story ;-)

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by pdx »

youdontknowtho wrote: post #43
11011011011 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they say "extremist" they mean "white people", goys.

The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think you will agree.

    > The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other 
    > white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think 
    ? you will agree.
Are they more extreme than nearly all other non-white people as well? Or just more extreme than white people? ;-)

For non-americans, the idea of a group of people who do not instantly submit to individual figures in authority, but instead, resist those in authority if they believe that those in authority are infringing on rights that are protected by the constitution, may seem really bizarre.

To condemn an organization because their raison d'etre is such resistance, would be normal in other countries, but it's a little frightening how a quick google search shows that condemnation here in America (assuming the people who wrote those pages were American).

I know a lot of HN readers are not American, so just wanted to clarify that we do have a slightly less submissive culture over here.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by dcosson »

ibuildoss wrote: post #2

The idea of the ory ecosystem ( https://github.com/ory / https://www.ory.am ) is to build a reliable, cloud native suite of tools which allow you to solve simple and complex IAM (identity and access management) use cases. Each service works standalone, but you can obviously combine them all. The Oathkeeper proxy is one piece of the puzzle which basically takes incoming HTTP requests, evaluates them on a set of rules…

This is a cool project, I'll definitely keep an eye on it. I've long wished that something framework & language agnostic like this existed.

One suggestion for the docs, especially since the tagline is that this is a cloud-native solution, would be examples of how to run it in common cloud setups. For instance I'm looking at the deployment page and it mentions that in the gateway configuration you'll want to run it behind a load balancer but in front of the API router. But if you're using an ELB, which as far as I'm aware is still part of basically the default way to run web apps on AWS, the load balancer and router are combined and there's no way to hook something like this in. So it would be cool to see some examples involving specific tools like ELBs, maybe a note on other ways to run it if using Kubernetes, etc.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by c1yd3i »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #18

Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

SJW

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by yarrel »

andymockli wrote: post #26
ibuildoss wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

Just to clarify, are you speaking for the team to condemn extremism in general, or the specific belief in upholding the U.S. Constitution within the U.S., or something else? Maybe I should pay attention to the discussion with the community when that occurs, but I'm interested in which "values" you take issue with. Care to share here?

I'd assume they take issue with the racism and the opposition to the rule of law.

Although I cannot imagine Americans being happy that racists opposed to the rule of law are cowering behind their constitution.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by rhizome »

crsv wrote: post #33
ibuildoss wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

I would encourage that you not bend to the will of those who would impose upon you what your brand might be or might be associated with. If you make a meaningful product in your space and the origins of the name are easily explained through 1: your aforementioned wordplay and 2: the GoT reference (likely more common), then I think you should fight to keep a name you love and find meaning in. As one of your potential…

If you make a meaningful product in your space and the origins of the name are easily explained through 1: your aforementioned wordplay and 2: the GoT reference (likely more common), then I think you should fight to keep a name you love and find meaning in.

Got any examples of this strategy succeeding?

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by rhizome »

robotrout wrote: post #42
mintplant wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SauciestGNU already provided one, full of direct quotes from their leadership.

I read the southern poverty law center's summary of why they dislike the oath keepers. The cases they touch upon in very one-sided ways, the Bundy ranch, the Malheur Standoff, the Oregon miners, are all cases well known to me, where the oath keepers acted commendably. I invite you to read about those events in more detail, from other sources.

If you have exculpatory sources, make with the URLs instead of casting pennies from the peanut gallery.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by rhizome »

pdx wrote: post #53
youdontknowtho wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think you will agree.

> The Oath Keepers are more extreme than nearly all other > white people. Just a fact. Read up on them and I think ? you will agree. Are they more extreme than nearly all other non-white people as well? Or just more extreme than white people? ;-) For non-americans, the idea of a group of people who do not instantly submit to individual figures in authority, but instead, resist those in authority if they believe that…

For non-americans, the idea of a group of people who do not instantly submit to individual figures in authority, but instead, resist those in authority if they believe that those in authority are infringing on rights that are protected by the constitution, may seem really bizarre.

Completely ahistorical.

Re: Show HN: Oathkeeper – Cloud-Native Identity and Access Proxy

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Post by SauciestGNU »

ibuildoss wrote: post #20
SauciestGNU wrote: post #18

Are you aware that this project shares a name with an extremist group[0]? I'm not sure how concerned you are about that, especially if you're not American, but I'd want to know if it were one of my projects. [0] https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/grou...

It is extremely important to be sensitive to extremism of any kind, condemn extremist practices, beliefs, and views and take a stance against extremist ideologies. We do not share nor endorse extremist views nor "values", nor have anything to do with extremist groups whatsoever. We have not heard about them (Oath Keepers) before. We'll discuss a name change internally & with the community. ps: It also shares the name…

Hi, thanks for your reply. I don't mean to insinuate in any way that you or your team support any particular ideology, I merely wanted to make you aware of an unfortunate namespace collision.

For what it's worth, I was unaware of the reference that was used as this project's namesake. That is ignorance on my part.

Furthermore I would like to apologize, as my comment seems to have inspired quite a bit of unproductive ideological bickering.

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