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Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before you select the one you like. And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.

If you pay a logo designer, you will not have that assurance either. It is literally impossible to vet an idea / logo / website name, before you even have it. First you design, then you apply for protection.

He's not talking about trademark protection, but copyright permissions to the assets used in the logos. I'd absolutely expect to have explicit licensing to redistribute and modify a logo, and from the T&C, it doesn't look like you even get that.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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the pricing seems high for this service. $30 for a computer generated logo. $990 for a professionally designed logo. I'm pretty sure you can get a computer generated logo for free from a variety of services, and professional logos for much less than $990. The UX on the site isn't great, so I wouldn't really pay for a premium service.

Something like 99designs makes a lot more sense, if you're willing to pay for a human-designed logo.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Yes, UI is a wreck. In addition, services like this demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding as to what logos are for and how they function. You can't communicate your brand's identity effectively by clicking some buttons and going on your "gut." Do yourself a favor: pay for a professional.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

#56

The search is case sensitive which produces no result when your phone starts with caps automatically. I selected icon only, picked an icon, clicked close, and it showed me a bunch of text only logos with no icon. I went back, picked a shape, clicked close, and the loading screen just kept loading.

I was trying to provide helpful feedback. One of my favorite things about "Show HN" is when creators address feedback in real time.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Fantastic concept! But I'm completely turned off by the IP terms ([1] below). This suggests LogoFox is pushing icons without doing IP checks, and selling them as finished logo designs without any assurance that the user won't get sued because of this. Don't take this as negative feedback, but as a tip to re-think the legal side approach. Better would be that you (a) you do some copyright checks and your terms state w…

Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

> Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

How though? For example, this is one of the things I got when I typed apple: https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/620675-200.png imgur at https://i.imgur.com/RmnqgG2.png

How does anyone know if you have the legal right to use this? I guess you could litigate over it and have a judge rule that you own it? What I am trying to say is that the straight forward way to legal protection is to include lawyer fees in whatever you charge customers. You can either make your product more expensive or you can try make things work for a lot more people. I don't think you can do both (once again I would love to be proven wrong).

Edit: it seems to be talking about copyright. I retract my comment. I think if you pay money, you should definitely have a full copyright license to do everything you need to do with a logo that identifies your business.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Yes, UI is a wreck. In addition, services like this demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding as to what logos are for and how they function. You can't communicate your brand's identity effectively by clicking some buttons and going on your "gut." Do yourself a favor: pay for a professional.

Oh, thank God.

I saw that this link was second, checked it out and was baffled.

I'm glad this is the first comment, I almost got scared people were praising the service.

I agree with everything you said.

A crappy logo is 100 times worse than no logo.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

#60

Yes, UI is a wreck. In addition, services like this demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding as to what logos are for and how they function. You can't communicate your brand's identity effectively by clicking some buttons and going on your "gut." Do yourself a favor: pay for a professional.

What are they for and how do they function?
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