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Re: Show HN: Codewich – A live-updating TypeScript/CSS/HTML playground

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> This is a bit meta, but both of you stated a position without providing a concrete rationale. The primary difference being that "my position" was not actually my position, it was just an attempt to point out exactly what you're trying to say. I guess I failed ;)

So you disagree or just were wanting to understand the backstory? I would try to help you but the sarcasm makes it unclear the best way to do that.

Neither. I think Flow and TypeScript are both great solutions, and neither is clearly better at this point.

Re: Show HN: Codewich – A live-updating TypeScript/CSS/HTML playground

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No, this is hyperbole and misleading. Follow their roadmap and stated direction. They have always been committed to aligning with standards and whenever ES adopts new functionality they gravitate to it's lead. They will never drift off to some mutation that isolates you from the JS ecosystem or its benefits.

If you look up "embrace, extend and extinguish" in the textbook, you will see Microsoft mentioned in the first sentence [1]. If you are old enough to remember Internet Explorer, you've already seen how this works. Consider then that static types do in fact extend JS and perhaps you'll see why this is not so reassuring after all. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

As an employee, I can tell you that the company culture has completely changed. I came in to MS a few months before Windows 7 released. I was just about to quit, when Nadella took over. I decided to wait it out and see. I am glad I did.

EEE died a long time ago. It was pretty much gone under Balmer, although we still didn't really play nice with others. Nadella on the other hand came in, started mending fences with other companies that we had previously ignored, or even had some hostility towards. Let me contrast some differences.

Balmer -> Gave all employees a Windows Phone and got pissed if he saw an employee with a competitors phone. I even saw him pretend he was stomping on an iphone at a Company Meeting. Nadella -> Put out a video from himself stating "Unless you work on certain parts of the Windows team, use whatever device want.

Balmer -> Had Office for IOS and Android mostly feature complete and wouldn't release it. Nadella -> Released it quickly after becoming CEO.

You are insane if you think EEE is still going on. That was over like 10. I'm going to skip Balmer as I am sure you can imagine, these are not things he would have done.

Right now Visual Studio for Mac is in preview. We purchased Xamarin and as far as I know it is now free for everyone except Enterprise.

In the last release of Visual Studio, we shipped Chrome as an optional addon.

Released Visual Studio code which is open source, built on open source products from GitHub and Google Chromium.

Open sourced .NET and made it cross platform. This also enabled us to release PowerShell as open source.

Added Bash on Ubuntu on Windows to Windows 10 by collaborating with Canonical. Seriously? Let that sink in @wiredearp. You can now run native command line tools in REAL linux running on Windows.

Invited the Angular team from Google to get a sneak peek at future plans for TypeScript. After the saw it they dropped AtScript and used TypeScript to build Angular (formally known as Angular 2). It is now the preferred language to consume it as well.

SharePoint, the product I work on will soon open source our new app model which now runs on a standard open source web stack. Webpack, gulp, React, all accounted for.

The static types in TypeScript add value, they weren't added as part of some scheme so later we can... what? I can't even imagine a nefarious end game.

No disrespect intended at all, but if you think this is the Microsoft of the Netscape era, you seriously haven't been paying attention.

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