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Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by Xunxi »

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

Xournal on (linux) or Onenote for android and ios should suffice as alternatives to ease your gripe

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by mynegation »

therealmarv wrote: post #43
mynegation wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My setup is: directory with Markdown files on encfs mounted from ciphertext on a Dropbox, exposed via WebDAVS behind the password. I use Noteboks app[1] for iOS (it keeps notes offline, but can sync with WebDAV). On a desktop I use my own webapp similar to the Simplenote/nvALT (I probably could use nvALT or similar too). [1] http://www.notebooksapp.com/

I'm curious... is this notebooksapp using a flat file structure always on the Mac (tried to figure out on their website) ? Bummer I don't use iOS. And it seems a text only note taking system does not work for me (otherwise I would also use nvalt, iawriter etc. already)

Notebooks app is an iOS app, so not sure what it uses internally, but it syncs with the directory tree of plain text, Markdown, or HTML files. It does support HTML and pictures, I do not use it, but it might be a good step towards your use case.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by bpicolo »

Raphmedia wrote: post #46
therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

It's actually a pretty competitive price. InvisionApp is $15/month at its cheapest which allows only 3 prototypes at a time. Apps targeted at designers are usually pretty expensive. I already pay $79/month to have full access to Adobe cloud apps.

Adobe is a different story, sort of what the whole livelihood is built on.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by smaddox »

jclos wrote: post #16
therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

You might be interested by [Laverna]( https://laverna.cc/ ). It's not as full-featured as Google keep but it does work offline and let you encrypt and sync your notes via dropbox, which I find to be more important than pure looks. The other alternative would be [Turtl]( https://turtlapp.com/ ) but you need to host the server somewhere (although I imagine just hosting it localy would work as well).

I just tried Laverna, and I want to love it because simple markdown+Dropbox sync+encryption is exactly what I want, but it's buggy as hell. I can't type a single sentence without it erasing a period, or jumping back to a state containing text I deleted...

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by therealmarv »

mynegation wrote: post #52
therealmarv wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious... is this notebooksapp using a flat file structure always on the Mac (tried to figure out on their website) ? Bummer I don't use iOS. And it seems a text only note taking system does not work for me (otherwise I would also use nvalt, iawriter etc. already)

Notebooks app is an iOS app, so not sure what it uses internally, but it syncs with the directory tree of plain text, Markdown, or HTML files. It does support HTML and pictures, I do not use it, but it might be a good step towards your use case.

Thanks.

I'm also evaluating using VSCode (it's perfect markdown preview) and this plugin for easy image pasting https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mushan.v... .

And I was also looking into using mkdocs for serving a bunch of Markdown files in a directory to a structured webpage including search (which works great it seems).

But I'm not 100% happy... does not eliminate all of my bucket list but is a pretty independent flat file format.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by crispinb »

Looks nice enough, but I won't ever again lock my notes data into a file format that is either private or too complex to in practice do much with outside of the app. I have lost too many 1000s of notes that way in the past. Exports are rarely useful -- losing metadata & structure, or not being cleanly importable into the next note system.

For now I use Quiver (http://happenapps.com/#quiver) which uses a documented json format simple enough for me to do anything I want with if/when I move on. It's mac-only, and development seems to have stalled, but I threw together a crude Android client for my own use.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by lobster_johnson »

wingerlang wrote: post #3
sunpazed wrote: post #2

I've used Milanote in beta for the last few months - and I can attest, it's a great platform for creative thinking. Calling it a "notes app" falls short of how good it is. Milanote has replaced my previous workflow — an entire wall of post-its, and roughly half a dozen moleskines - with pages of others tacked in between the sheets. There's a few cool features too — my favourite being ‘view as document’. It takes seri…

Is it a web app? It isn't obvious from their website and I can't find information. I also don't feel like signing up.

Yes: "Milanote runs in any modern web browser. Native apps for iOS and Android coming soon."

It's an odd decision in this age of "mobile first" and Electron-wrapped apps like Slack. Especially since it's not in beta and the only plan is a paid one.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by endisukaj »

therealmarv wrote: post #12
TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closest to this I found is Org Mode in Emacs. Pros and cons: + it's free + it's a flat, text format, human-readable and editable even outside Org Mode + has one of the best table editors ever + off-line first, no cloud bullshit + can handle source code and images pretty well + awesome export options - including LaTeX, HTML and nicely formatted UTF-8 plaintext + infinite flexibility of Emacs - infinite flexibility…

Read that one before. I'm getting more and more used to the simple Emacs shortcuts on the Mac (because it's build in to some degree). But I don't know if I have enough time to learn it... used to Sublime and VSCode coding here ;)

Emacs + EVIL mode. Life changer for me. If you are not familiar with vi-keybindings, I highly suggest everyone to take the time and learn them. It's not as hard as it seems and will increase your productivity while editing text 100-fold.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by caublestone »

oliebol wrote: post #8
mntmn wrote: post #6

We made 5 or 6 major versions of a similar tool from 2011-now ( https://spacedeck.com ), in the end it failed to monetize in a significant way. We will probably open-source it soon to provide a continuity path for the (relatively small) core userbase. Edit: You made some really good UX detail choices: - Grid that snaps on releasing items - Column object (smart!) - Omitting zoom is also probably a good idea (complicat…

Thanks! We're definitely trying to keep it pretty simple—Spacedeck looks cool too :)

Get rid of drag and drop and arrange the grid either LIFO or FIFO instead. Let users rearrange the notes after creation. This promotes getting a thought down without distraction while preserving arrangement for a reflection period. Make this awesome please.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by 6stringmerc »

I still prefer my spiral notepads (portable) or notebooks (larger form) for ideas and whatnot. Cheap. No internet needed. No batteries. Instant tactile response. Can share (take pic, send pic).

Although, I think this deserves a bit of recognition:

>Milanote is used by creative professionals from these companies

...very clever way to put up some fancy logos that could almost be interpreted as endorsement but isn't really endorsement more like a factual statement without any sources attached, so just enjoy the logos and move on heh.

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