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I’m talking about the iPhone.
Messages is the same on OSX and iOS. It's not deeply integrated into the iOS by any normal definition. It's just shipped together.
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Probably because no one uses iMessage in the EU.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone sending messages from an iPhone to another is using it.
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EveryBuddy
This seems like it won't last, but it's AWESOME and I really hope you survive Apple's inevitable attempts to kill this. A universal chat application would be amazing, and will maybe help bring attention to the value of standards and interoperability (hopefully by governments/regulators).
> A universal chat application would be amazing You mean like WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and dozens of different chat apps available for both Android and iOS?
Universal in this context is referring to the ability to use a single app across protocols rather than the ability to use a single app across platforms.
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They wouldn't have to ban it, they could just alter the protocol to make it impossible. iMessage is designed to only work on devices manufactured by a single company. All of those devices have secure cryptographic elements built into them. It's not a stretch to think Apple could lock down iMessage under the guise of security.
The only way I could see this happening is if they have all of the public keys of the secure cryptographic elements in a database of all Apple devices ever created. Because otherwise, it would just be trivial to emulate a "secure cryptographic element" if it's just a public/private key. They aren't running a client by Apple. A glance at other posts seems they are using Apple code, but that would just be a matter of r…
Importantly, this matters even for those older devices that were created without secure enclaves. iMessage still used this PKI architecture back before every new mac/iphone/ipad had a SE.
I'm an iOS user, and juggle SIMs a lot. For your upcoming iOS app -- what sorts of SIM liveness requirements do you require? I'd love to be able to auth periodically and predictably and then disable my iMessage-aware SIM for some period of time.
it's a genuine question, no sarcasm. I the last 12 years of using Android i've never had to send message to iMessage. So i really dont get the hype.
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Probably because no one uses iMessage in the EU.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone sending messages from an iPhone to another is using it.
I just downloaded it, and can't get past the landing/sign-in page: "Google sign in error.null" Unfortunately, signing in with Google is the only option.