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Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
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Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#452Congratulations. I like the layout. Although the page loads extremely slowly, I'm on a modern Ryzen 3, on a 100 mbit connection and my computer is really struggling to load the page. Like it takes nearly 5 seconds and I can't imagine what is taking so long to present the search bar with no search results.
Thanks for the feedback - hope to improve speed in the coming weeks. stay tuned! :)
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#453I really love the extensions and the layout I'm a designer, learning to code and even if I'm not using it for search regarding dev stuff I really like the vision and thought process Big Kudos to the entire team working on this stuff. I have no issues with installing extension, I have 100's already and I only a dozen of them frequently It'd be great if you could integrate some functionality similar to spotlight like,…
Wow thanks for all your feedback :) We'll make a note of them!
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#454Even in "private mode" (not enabled by default), if I search "squid game mask" it hits maps.googleapis.com with my entire user agent string. How is this private? Perhaps a bug?
Wow it indeed was a bug that effected one of our apps. It should be fixed now and will be prevented in all future apps.
Appreciate your feedback, truly :)
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#455> But may have private ads I the future So, in the long run, how is your app not becoming Google? Anyone who makes money with ads has rational incentives to not respect your user's time and privacy. That's even worse for search engines. I would gladly pay for search engines that have community curated content, I want business that have incentives aligned with me as a customer, free stuff with ads is horse shit.
Thanks for your feedback. That's helpful.
Private ads worked for DDG to some degree but we think it's not the most creative idea.
We've just launched our MVP version this week and haven't implemented these other more creative monetization ideas.
We care deeply about trust, privacy and choice so we want to be careful: We don't want to implement these things or tell our competition about our plans before making progress and getting feedback from our users on them.
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
You broke the site guidelines with this comment. Putting "respectfully" in front of something disrespectful does not make it ok. It's particularly important not to pile on someone when they're presenting their own work—the Show HN guidelines have additional rules about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html . Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN in the intended spirit.
I don't see anything disrespectful in that comment; it was made entirely in good faith. That concept becomes tricky in situations like this, because you're assuming bad faith, and then tone policing based off that. My point of view is that you got it wrong this time, but that doesn't really matter, you're the one with the hammer, boss. o7 Fwiw, HN needs an alert/messaging system of some kind to deliver these moderati…
You packed so many swipey phrases into your comment ("nobody knows who the fuck you are", "", "you created this problem for yourself", "the more you respond", "this is some poorly thought out", "you don't understand") that the post came across as something between a harangue and an outright an attack. This is not a good way to communicate respectfully on the internet. (Doubly so in the context of a mass pile-on, which is what this thread became.)
I believe you that you wrote your post in good faith, but intentions aren't enough. All too often, a comment comes out in a way that doesn't at all make its good intent clear, and damaging effects don't become less when the damage is unintentional. Therefore the burden falls on the commenter to disambiguate intent (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...).
(Yes, it's on the list to eventually build a better way of signaling moderation to accounts. I'm sure there is a much better solution.)
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brave browser seems to have figured out a way to make money on ads without sacrificing user data/privacy. If you opt in to their ads they basically sync ad campaigns to your browser and then use local browsing profiles that don't get sent to any servers to decide which ads to show you. It all happens on your computer and it doesn't send your profile to anybody, so the only user data involved is "user looked at an ad,…
How do you know it is not sacrificing user data/privacy? It sends a lot of requests 'home' to their servers with your private information like IP address in them. At best you should be wary of that. If privacy is your concern you should look for a zero-telemetry browser, and even better if ads are not their primary business model.
It's REALLY easy to check what the browser is doing and multiple people have. There was an article floating around claiming it phones home but many people very quickly pointed out that the author was mistaken, at best (they thought some CSS or something completely normal being loaded in the background was brave "phoning home").
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever the subject of personalising search results comes up in technical communities, the most common thing I hear are people saying they wish they could remove W3Schools from their search results automatically. Specifically that particular site. It’s got a terrible reputation. People have even built browser extensions to do it: https://www.google.com/search?q=remove+w3schools+from+search... In that context, it see…
Yea. All sources and apps can be preferred or disliked and that will impact the ranking. StackOverflow might be more popular :) You can test your json files to see if they're valid via the json checker app.
Why have you put a JSON checker into your search engine? These are two entirely different things.
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you know it is not sacrificing user data/privacy? It sends a lot of requests 'home' to their servers with your private information like IP address in them. At best you should be wary of that. If privacy is your concern you should look for a zero-telemetry browser, and even better if ads are not their primary business model.
It's REALLY easy to check what the browser is doing and multiple people have. There was an article floating around claiming it phones home but many people very quickly pointed out that the author was mistaken, at best (they thought some CSS or something completely normal being loaded in the background was brave "phoning home").
The question is not what the browser is doing (which is easily verifiable with a network proxy, even without the browser being open source), but the question is what the server is doing with the data that is being sent to it by the browser, and that data includes PII like the IP address.
The best way to remove this question is for browsers to be zero-telemetry which is what I was advocating for.
Re: Show HN: You.com, private search engine that summarizes the web – built for devs
#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see anything disrespectful in that comment; it was made entirely in good faith. That concept becomes tricky in situations like this, because you're assuming bad faith, and then tone policing based off that. My point of view is that you got it wrong this time, but that doesn't really matter, you're the one with the hammer, boss. o7 Fwiw, HN needs an alert/messaging system of some kind to deliver these moderati…
You packed so many swipey phrases into your comment ("nobody knows who the fuck you are", " ", "you created this problem for yourself", "the more you respond", "this is some poorly thought out", "you don't understand") that the post came across as something between a harangue and an outright an attack. This is not a good way to communicate respectfully on the internet. (Doubly so in the context of a mass pile-on, whi…
You stuck this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29165602
You posted this, whether by userscript or directly: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29167680
and then this subthread, where we're having this conversation after dinging me.
The OP didn't disclose the requirement of a browser extension. The linked site didn't function in two out of three browsers, and prompted extension installs on Chrome. It was also breaking in user tests.
The users responded as they did. When the extension requirement became the core topic, OP rotated between multiple reasons for why, including some rather bad generalizations about google being a $2trn company, users not being smart enough to switch the default search provider, and almost-but-not-quite admitting it's user capture.
They were back in the other thread debating back and forth, and called out about dishonesty in regards to more of their product claims since. They also removed the extension requirement.
Where were you?
You dinged me, a day later, but never said a word to OP about the need to disclose unexpected software installation requirements for a search service? You allowed them to post, in two separate threads, and market their product with dark patterns.
That's how pile-on's happen, Dan. The product didn't work as submitted, as it required an undisclosed software installation on only one browser, and didn't function at all on others.
Did you test the landing page before sticking their promotional comment?
Did you test it at all?
Do you verify any of the submissions?
If so, why didn't you verify this one?
Why are Show submissions allowed to promote their products with dark patterns?
The people that care about this community's fellow members rightly piled on, because you weren't doing anything about it. This is not the first time this situation has happened. That pile-on is the public screaming warnings to those who might be unaware of potential danger.
Good faith says you just missed the context because you're swamped, I get it man.
When you start dictating what other peoples words mean, without context, and trying to redefine their communication styles to fit your preferred format, on top of the perspective I just shared; How do you think that looks?
I think your approach on this, from the initial submission up, is either disingenuous or careless. I think you fired from the hip, based on my comment, and didn't do anything to actually address, or understand, the cause of the issues in this thread, or the other one.