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Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by dajohnson89 »

jasonx1e wrote: post #257
tomc1985 wrote: post #163

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Oh but it is? Do you use the GIMP? Photoshop's content-aware fill first appeared as a third-party open-source plugin for the GIMP. While one certainly can't equate the two I have found GIMP works well for a broad array of digital imagery tasks... just like Photoshop. Much of Photoshop's dominance has to do with the network effects of Adobe's ubiquitous ecosystem as much as the comprehensiveness of their tooling.

I find Photoshop v Gimp akin to Android v iOS.

You mean other way around?

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by zanny »

frozenport wrote: post #321
conductr wrote: post #319

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My question is, what is preventing GIMP from tapping into their existing userbase? I get they are FOSS. But, they could still add in their GUI options that don't exist; then prompt donations that would go towards the features development. For example, Image > Rotate, triggers a pop-up, "Sorry, Rotating image is not currently a feature but with your support we'd love to add it to GIMP! We expect it will cost $10,000 a…

What if I told you that the non-user friendly aspects of GIMP were by design? I belive there was a battle a decade ago to get rid of odd floating side bars.

Well yeah, there was a battle, and they added single window mode like 6 years ago. Solved the floating bars.

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by akvadrako »

whack wrote: post #274
bqe wrote: post #177

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This reminds me of the joke about the economist who refuses to pick up the $20 bill on the ground because surely someone else would have already picked it up.

Yes, people love to laugh at this mythical economist, but seriously, when's the last time you saw a legit $20 bill just lying on the ground? I've never seen this even once in my life. Perhaps this mythical economist is the one having the last laugh.

Just last week I put a 20 euro note on ebay and the highest bid was under 5 euro. I guess everybody was thinking like an economist.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/263028687192?

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by [deleted] »

sjbase wrote: post #304

Super cool idea, but there's a ton of potential for misunderstanding. Example: User: "I want {A}." Winning developer: builds {a} User: "This is useless to me. I wanted {A}, not {a}" Developer: "But you never said you were case-sensitive!" It can easily go the other way, with the user saying "Well i said {a}, but I meant {A}. {a} is useless to me." Who pays when nobody is clearly in the wrong about some ambiguity? The…

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Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by kminehart »

hacksonx wrote: post #405
kminehart wrote: post #158

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I agree about that specific example, but I think a lot of people are missing the point. > Developers own the products they build for customers, and charge a monthly fee for access. So, what you're seeing is what a single user is expecting to pay. This is not like a contracting / free-lance website where someone hires you under contract to do some development work. Instead, you create the SaaS or whatever, and then yo…

So in essence the product's growth will depend on how well I built it, how much marketing I put into it and lastly how many more people will want this in the future? Nothing new there.

Yeah but at least you have some ideas laid out for you. I'm always looking for a side project, but I never know what people need.

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by e12e »

falcolas wrote: post #119
sanbor wrote: post #52

Photoshop license costs $348 a year. If 1000 people get together and put $400 each, you'll get $400000. That money could be used to leverage a Gimp to be more Photoshop-users friendly. Then you don't have to keep with the subscription model. You have a great piece of open source software available for everyone to use as long as they want. You can do another round to get more features added. This solves the issue that…

I'll be the negative Nancy here - you'll never get 1000 people to pay $400 each for any OSS software, no matter the price of the competitor. The reason is a simple value estimation. It's open source (and so free to get) therefore its price is $0. Any product that is free signals that the product has correspondingly low value. I think it's simply unrealistic to expect people to put forward $400 for something with such…

I don't know. 1000 is [ed: not] that large a number of people. But it might be easier to get 40 from 10.000 people, than 400 from a thousand.

I'm reminded about the kickstarter for Django migrations: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andrewgodwin/schema-mig...

Most backers gave 5 or 10 pounds, but on average ~500 people gave ~35 each.

You might be half-right about perceived value though - I think anyone that is a serious Gimp user see value in the software, but might still think 400 is too steep, given that it is free now. But I also think many users would be willing to pay for getting some features in/some polish done - personally I'd say my current limit would be around 100 USD for any one OSS project.

Now one one hand, Debian does much more than any small project, but I also think it's more likely that 10 000 USD would do more for something like the Gimp, than for Debian (assuming we had a developer or two on standby that could take the opportunity of devoting a month full time on getting some pain points resolved, say).

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Post by mustacheemperor »

tomc1985 wrote: post #337
rgbrenner wrote: post #186

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I'm well aware of the status of GIMP. I first used it 15+ years ago. I used it for many years before buying PS. I last used it maybe 6 months ago. I like to check it out occasionally when my CS subscription is up for renewal. I actually pay, not just for CS, but an entire Windows computer to run it. The rest of my computers run Linux, and I use open source software everywhere. I would absolutely love to switch to GIM…

Well, GIMP's interface is definitely different from PS. And I wouldn't argue better... But PS is the only program I have ever had to take a class in to be productive in, as it was clearly built to be familiar to people with very clearly-formed ideas about workflow, e.g. old-school photography and design folks. And switching to GIMP is possible methinks, you just have to learn the interface. Just like Photoshop...

GIMP does not even have a circle tool, and I don't think working around pointless limitations like that counts as "learning the interface."

The commenter above you used the software for 15+ years and specifically cited that lack of feature parity is the only criticism keeping them on CC. I have used both as well and do not follow your opinion about Photoshop, maybe because I never used those old school design tools. To me it looks like an Adobe UI.

Overall I just don't understand how you read the comments above and determined the solution is to learn the interface - honestly, the most tired and uninformed defense of GIMP there is. Especially when your primary criticism of Photoshop was... The interface. I guess the argument could be made you eventually get used to working around inexplicable deficiencies like above, but switching to GIMP is not possible if you need the features only included in Photoshop. There's not some random cosmic reason Blender and Inkscape are considered healthy competitors in their respective domains but not GIMP.

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by e12e »

jkeat wrote: post #123
falcolas wrote: post #119

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I'll be the negative Nancy here - you'll never get 1000 people to pay $400 each for any OSS software, no matter the price of the competitor. The reason is a simple value estimation. It's open source (and so free to get) therefore its price is $0. Any product that is free signals that the product has correspondingly low value. I think it's simply unrealistic to expect people to put forward $400 for something with such…

If I could count on the 999 other people, Kickstarter-style, I just might.

I think something more limited (like get GEGL out the door, if that isn't done yet) along the lines of the Django migrations kickstarter would be more realistic: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andrewgodwin/schema-mig...

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by mod »

edem wrote: post #301
whack wrote: post #274

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Yes, people love to laugh at this mythical economist, but seriously, when's the last time you saw a legit $20 bill just lying on the ground? I've never seen this even once in my life. Perhaps this mythical economist is the one having the last laugh.

I've once found an 5000 HUF (18 USD) bill on the floor in a pub. I picked it up and wanted to ask "who lost this?" then I realized that everybody would answer "me!" so I just kept it.

My father taught me a trick. It's not foolproof, but it's better than your version.

You ask if anyone lost any money. If someone says they did, you follow up with "how much money, and how big were the bills?"

Then they have to know an amount, how many bills, and what denomination.

You can imagine that it's hard to fake, and anyone being genuine will have a pretty good idea of what you're holding.

Re: Show HN: Get Paid to Build Your Next Side Project

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Post by mod »

dragonwriter wrote: post #282
whack wrote: post #274

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Yes, people love to laugh at this mythical economist, but seriously, when's the last time you saw a legit $20 bill just lying on the ground? I've never seen this even once in my life. Perhaps this mythical economist is the one having the last laugh.

> Yes, people love to laugh at this mythical economist, but seriously, when's the last time you saw a legit $20 bill just lying on the ground? 1996 (±2 years) in an arcade, actually.

I found a $10 two years ago in a field.

It was really ragged, so much so that the bank wouldn't take it. So I still have it.

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