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Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

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I AGREE! I'm sure every single person in the Tenderloin is there because they're just losers! That's why I'm proposing Bumfights. It could be an awesome startup. Pit them against each other Hunger Games style. Fuck those loser homeless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_Baby_Athletic_Association

First "Faith + 1" then this.

The South Park guys always one step ahead with capitalism.

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#42

Very awesome. One thing I love about Watsi is that I can actually see (and pick) who I'm donating to. There's something cool about being able to read their stories and see their pictures -- it almost makes me feel bad going to the site and not donating. Good luck!

Someone else mentioned this site, which is exactly what I was thinking:

https://handup.us/

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

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It's kind of amazing how you can stereotype huge amounts of people in two sentences. And it's ALL THEIR FAULT. Not the economy, not the insane cost of higher education to gain job skills, not the outsourcing and automation of modern society. It's the homeless who are failures. That's why I propose Gladiator hobo fights to the death. Only the strongest hobo's survive. Make them earn their cheeseburgers like a good cap…

You're not making a good case for your point of view here.

I'm really committed to startup culture.

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#44

I applaud efforts like these for at least doing something to address the problem, even if it doesn't turn out to be the most effective use of capital in the end as some suggest here. That said, I think some of the best projects fighting homelessness are supportive housing projects that help people get an apartment and provide additional services for medical/psychiatric treatments, food stamps, etc. [1] 1. http://en.w…

Housing First has been shown to be fiscally prudent, generate good outcomes, as well as just being plain compassionate (of course we shouldn't base whether or not you have access to a home on whether or not you have a substance abuse issue). Salt Lake City has had some huge successes implementing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_first

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=18984066

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#45
Spending $200M/year on ~15,000 homeless, that's ~$1,000/month for each homeless. I don't think we need more money. We need to spend it better.

Why not build public bathrooms ? That could be used by homeless and others (like people renting a bedroom w/o shower, poor, students, etc.). Actually that could be a way to reach homeless people, to provide them medical and social help.

To integrate homeless to society you need to provide them the basics that they don't have (bathroom, shelter, laundry, food, medical and social help, and even bank account, internet, phone). Not all will grab the opportunity, but at least they will have a chance to.

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#46

OP after reading all the comments in this thread, I've determined that your idea for mercy and compassion is a flawed concept and is not good capitalism. What you should do instead is turn your web site into a bumfights startup!!! Make them fight to the death hunger games style for tons of swag. The profit potential is huge, the homeless population will be decreased, AND the leftover hobos will have tons of good swag…

I also wish I could downvote you into oblivion. You're mischaracterizing others to an extreme, and in such poor taste.

I'm mischaracterizing ignorance?

Mischaracterizing dehumanization of entire swathes of people with a simplistic black and white view of the world.

It could be literally Hitler posting these comments.

There's no taste too low for people like that no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#47

OP after reading all the comments in this thread, I've determined that your idea for mercy and compassion is a flawed concept and is not good capitalism. What you should do instead is turn your web site into a bumfights startup!!! Make them fight to the death hunger games style for tons of swag. The profit potential is huge, the homeless population will be decreased, AND the leftover hobos will have tons of good swag…

I don't have downvote power on here, but I think you should re-consider your comment - as it's snarky, doesn't add anything, and doesn't really follow the ethos of HN.

I'm really commited to start up culture! I think this a great idea.

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#48

OP after reading all the comments in this thread, I've determined that your idea for mercy and compassion is a flawed concept and is not good capitalism. What you should do instead is turn your web site into a bumfights startup!!! Make them fight to the death hunger games style for tons of swag. The profit potential is huge, the homeless population will be decreased, AND the leftover hobos will have tons of good swag…

Please upvote!!!

This is a great startup idea!!

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

#49

It's a nice gesture, but it won't 'fix' homelessness. There are some homeless who will stay that way; you can see them roaming around in packs. And then there are the mentally ill; they need medications and structure. There's too much money to be made by the established people, so chances of fixing homelessness are negligible. It's a corrupt system.

I agree than the term "fixing homelessness" is probably not appropriate. As you said some homeless might want to stay homeless, and that is fine. But for the homeless who want to get out of homelessness, there should be a clear path to get back. That could start with basics (shelter, bathroom, medical and social help).

Re: Show HN: A website aiming to fix homelessness in SF

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It seems a bit like trying to fix the pigeon problem in the city by putting out pigeon food. The harsh reality is that the more accommodating to the homeless the city is, the more homeless there will be. I think there are solutions, and they can be compassionate, but simply making life easier for the homeless has long term drawbacks that are greater than the short term upsides.

I agree that the goal shouldn't be making the life too easy for the homeless - instead I believe that we should focus on helping them re-integrate back to the society, at least for the ones that would like to. Homelessness is the main concern for resident of San Francisco according to recent polls, and it would be a shame if this stayed like this for another 10 years. With this campaign, we can start creating campaig…

Making it 'easy' for the homeless?

Lol you think basic fundamental survival goods like food and blankets are making it easy?

Are you SERIOUS?

Because I completely agree! You guys are absolutely right on. If you encourage homelessness EVERYONE will become one.

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