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Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

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Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#41
post #14

Is there a demo/ sample page of the product?

We're working with Boosted Boards to help them with their pre-orders: https://www.trycelery.com/p/boosted

So this seems to go against what I read earlier where charges are only made when the item ships - but it seems the Boosted Board takes a $200 deposit instead of just saving your card for the full amount?

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#44
post #27
post #18

I'm missing something. Can you explain this to me as if I were five? I'm really gun shy with anything involving my customers CC data, and I suspect others are too. Some of my concerns: 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells. 2) To be clear - you are storing the cre…

In the case of pre-ordering, Celery doesn't make any authorizations/holds upon the creation of the order. We use Stripe to make sure the card is valid and the charge is processed at a later time. Celery does not store the credit cards and all payment information transferred is encrypted with SSL. The cards are held within Stripe's vault. Each seller uses their own Stripe token. The chargebacks would affect the seller…

Whoa - you need to make it clear that I have to bring my own Stripe account. Nowhere is that mentioned on your page. So the 256-bit encryption you're touting on your homepage is really Stripe's 256-bit encryption? Not cool.

Is the "Embeddable Checkout Overlay" really Stripe Checkout too? Which of your features are you actually providing and which are really Stripe?

Right now this looks like a simple wrapper around Stripe Connect that waits X days to bill, plus a basic Bootstrap template you can use. What am I missing?

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#45

One of the main reasons I feel comfortable about using Kickstarter is the fact that I know my funds won't get released to the company/person unless enough people "fund" it. Once enough people back it then I'm not as worried about losing my money (probably more psychological than anything) because I feel like there would be a huge uproar if someone tried running off. This doesn't really seem to give me as the "pre-ord…

I'm part of a team building distributed crowd funding tools that focus on these problems for independent sellers. Some similarities to Celery, just in terms of product.

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#46
post #11

The name "Celery" made me think of the task queue[1]. In both cases though it's a very random name. [1] http://www.celeryproject.org/

The logo looks almost identical to the old celery (task queue) logo. Not sure how the word "celery" relates to payments, but the name of the task queue is not random: rabbits like celery (rabbitmq.com).

i always thought of the physical structure of celery and how it splits and is stringy - reminds my of piping tasks through a distributed task queue. i like the rabbit connection too though!

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#47
post #7

Is it me, or is the grammar on this page very confusing. I had to reread sentences multiple times to understand their meanings. I understand it's a marketing page, but it seems like the author is more focused on dropping buzzwords instead of explaining the product

The only place I see a grammar faux pas is in this sentence (emphasis mine):

> Spend less time on tracking down lost orders and focus on building great products.

It should be "Spend less time tracking down..."

The bigger issue is that nearly every sentence breaks in awkward places due to the layout of the site.

Examples:

  Safely hold payment information  
  without charging until you're ready
  to ship.  
"until you're ready to ship" is a singular concept and should be on the same line.

  Our checkout design is responsive
  so your product sells itself on any
  desktop, mobile, or tablet device.
Same: "any desktop, mobile, or tablet device" should be on the same line.

  Allow purchasing directly on your
  site with an embedded checkout
  overlay that’s elegant and secure
"an embedded checkout overlay" should be on the same line.

Similarly, none of the emphasis phrases should start halfway through a line and break:

  take pre-
  orders in person
is hard to read even though it's a key point.

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#48
post #9

For anyone curious, here is a sample/demo page after creation. https://www.trycelery.com/p/my-first-product It looks solid. I see that you mention that you have had quite a lot of press coverage for this.. by the "As Featured In". I can't find any related articles though and I'd be interested in reading them :) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=link%3Atrycelery.com Plus site:techcrunch.com trycelery.com doesn't work,…

Hey Chris, I'm one of the guys who worked on it. The company name is under Airbrite. We built an e-commerce API and Celery is powered off of it.

That is very misleading marketing speak, to the point of lying. You (or your copywriter) just killed Celery's credibility.

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#49
post #44
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of pre-ordering, Celery doesn't make any authorizations/holds upon the creation of the order. We use Stripe to make sure the card is valid and the charge is processed at a later time. Celery does not store the credit cards and all payment information transferred is encrypted with SSL. The cards are held within Stripe's vault. Each seller uses their own Stripe token. The chargebacks would affect the seller…

Whoa - you need to make it clear that I have to bring my own Stripe account. Nowhere is that mentioned on your page. So the 256-bit encryption you're touting on your homepage is really Stripe's 256-bit encryption? Not cool. Is the "Embeddable Checkout Overlay" really Stripe Checkout too? Which of your features are you actually providing and which are really Stripe? Right now this looks like a simple wrapper around St…

Thanks for the questions. We're working to update the FAQ and site to make all of this more clear. My personal belief is that there's more to commerce than just payments (order management, inventory management, analytics, supporting web and native mobile/tablet apps, etc). It may look simple now, but these are the types of challenges we're in the process of tackling.

Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery

#50
post #27
post #18

I'm missing something. Can you explain this to me as if I were five? I'm really gun shy with anything involving my customers CC data, and I suspect others are too. Some of my concerns: 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells. 2) To be clear - you are storing the cre…

In the case of pre-ordering, Celery doesn't make any authorizations/holds upon the creation of the order. We use Stripe to make sure the card is valid and the charge is processed at a later time. Celery does not store the credit cards and all payment information transferred is encrypted with SSL. The cards are held within Stripe's vault. Each seller uses their own Stripe token. The chargebacks would affect the seller…

I'm confused, have you looked @ balancedpayments.com? We offer this out of the box without you having to go through this and we're YC W2011.
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