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Not sure why you're getting so much hate. Internet is already chock-full of slop, a new TUI-based tool is not going to make it measurably worse.
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My god. I'm getting anxiety. I shouldn't have posted this
I like seeing what people create, and you've created something with some interesting features, particularly around the path map and keeping all drafts. I'm forever duplicating a paragraph and rewording it 6 or 7 times, then deleting the rest - and the next day think "no try #2 was better than the one I kept". Ignore the haters, they're a HN rite of passage. Good luck with your writing!
Yeah I spent a lot of time thinking about this problem. Wanted to make it easy to navigate multiple takes and multiple branches.
It's a difficult UX problem. I feel like the path view of the map works reasonably well but tree/mass not so much. Needs more thinking
This is spectacularly wrong headed. If you want a book with your name on it for adulation or career reasons, but lack the interest, time or talent to produce one - hire a ghost writer. Writers are affordable and plentiful.
Similarly if you have a hyperspecific interest, kink or genre preference - use your position as a presumably well remunerated tech person to hire a writer to cater to it. Trust me, we need the patronage.
If you're looking for the pleasure of writing, you will unfortunately have to undergo, as all writers have through history, the process of suffering and discovery that we call writing.
This is so depressing for me. The drip will be everywhere.
AI feels like a Faustian bargain that has been struck on my behalf by others who do not know me. "Tools" like this make me feel nothing but a profound sense of sadness and despair.
https://www.anthologialitt.com/post/the-god-thoth-and-the-in...
Every invention is a Faustian pact. It amplifies certain things and atrophies others.
Personally I think the approach I'll take with literature is the same as other things: I'll evaluate it in its merit and not try to guess on its origin. We're already awash in people accusing actual human writing of being "AI" while meanwhile AI writing slips under the radar. It's pointless. It is what it is when it arrives at my eyeballs.
If I wrote a book I would not use the AI to craft prose, not from AI-hate but because to me it kind of defeats the purpose. I would, however, use it as a first pass proofreader and editor, and maybe as a brainstorming "rubber duck that talks back." It's pretty good at those things.
-- From the link:
“This invention, O king,” said Theuth, “will make the Egyptians wiser and will improve their memories; for it is an elixir of memory and wisdom that I have discovered.”
But Thamus replied,
“Most ingenious Theuth, one man has the ability to beget arts, but the ability to judge of their usefulness or harmfulness to their users belongs to another; and now you, who are the father of letters, have been led by your affection to ascribe to them a power the opposite of that which they really possess.
For this invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory. Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them.
You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise."
Will be interesting to see where you take this. I'd love to see more experimentation around AI tooling and UX to support creativity.
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Here's a question. Tangential I know. "Digression!" If you had a kid, let's say 6 years old, and they had a "super hero" they wrote stories about. What would it mean, if you took away their creative process and replaced it with this. Does that child have a lesser "life-experience?" Or not? What about you?
But I'm not taking it away. I'm adding to it. I'm also writing my own stories. My post marketed it the wrong way I think. I'm suddenly getting a lot of hate mail in my inbox. What it really is is a kind of choose your own adventure. You can be 6 years old and write stories and then an hour later play a choose-your-own-adventure game and no one would find that weird
We are going to have kids who, instead of imagining their own fantasy lands, are given them by AI. Of course the AI will be far superior to a 6 year old- how will they be able to resist the AI drip, when even adults can't.
A generation growing up without imagining. So depressing.
I guess we have a few years before it starts. Or maybe it already has.
Wow.
I hope this doesn't happen. I hope the kids are smarter than us.
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sorry i'm a writer who edits... this project is genuinely interesting and i'm curious to see where it goes. i would try to market it as ML instead of AI, given the current temperature of AI in publishing and writing circles. if somebody can improve upon track changes in a git-like, narrative-tree way, then that might be super useful tool!
Yeah I noticed that my god. I regret even posting it. I'm suddenly getting a lot of weird mail I'm not used to hate like that.
I like your tool by the way, I don't understand what sort of person would have such visceral hate towards someone's creation.
They don't have to use it but it is nice for you to share your creation.
Don't be put off by them, they actually secretly use LLMs for their own work and they are embarrassed of putting it out there to protect their own 'programmer' ego.
Keep going!
Seems a bit low to me. Yeah, I know that's way bigger than a book, but surely there is conversation, iteration history, etc
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There are some good use cases, personal fiction, etc. The issue is mostly people not disclaiming it’s AI. I can’t get mad at the tool builder. Neither can I assume the worse of every user. That being said, I wouldn’t have published something like this because I do assume the worse. But it’s morally wrong to assume every one lacks honesty… Tough one
I just fundamentally disagree with this. On one hand, sure, you can argue that there is no direct harm caused by using LLMs to generate fiction for personal consumption. But on the other hand, I feel like there is a deep spiritual deadening that arises when we no longer must engage with the works of others to find fiction that satisfies our tastes. You have niche interests? What you want to read doesn't exist in a me…
I assume the several comments complementing the style of this app are being sarcastic, because.. come on..
My god. I'm getting anxiety. I shouldn't have posted this
Don't forget Hacker News is known for amazing commentary like this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224