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Re: Show HN: Drive any macOS app in the background without stealing the cursor

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Post by DonHopkins »

jonhohle wrote: post #38
cyberrock wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness Charmin is probably backed by millions of dollars of market research on simple user questions like softness, tendency to crumble, size, etc., while free software faces more criticism for issues that are exponentially more difficult to express.

Ok, replace Charmin with a toilet paper startup disrupting the industry. They wouldn’t be given a pass either. Still disgusting. It should probably be noted that if there’s no agreement, collecting telemetry without opt-in probably violates several state and federal laws. Not that these are enforced, but it would be nice if they were.

>Ok, replace Charmin with a toilet paper startup disrupting the industry.

"Move Fast and Break Things" is an ominous motto for a disruptive toilet paper startup.

So is "Fake It Till You Make It".

"Crowd Sourced Enshittification" is more like it.

Re: Show HN: Drive any macOS app in the background without stealing the cursor

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Post by lukewarm707 »

jorvi wrote: post #40
lukewarm707 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think that in a free society, you should be able to sell the product you want to sell. but, you should give information of what you are selling to the customer. if it has telemetry, then it is a tool the customer buys, that also has the function of listening and reporting to others, how it is being used. you want to sell it - no problem. but tell the customer, "look, this is bugged, and it's going to tell me what y…

Again: telemetry isn't "spying" and it isn't "bugging" the application. It collects usage patterns: how often is which button being pressed by which type of user. It is not collecting data on you personally nor is it collecting the actual data you enter.

go on posthog: https://posthog.com/session-replay

"Watch people use your product" - that's their own words!

it literally sends you screen capture. and yes, you can id the user and capture inputs.

YC 2020. we love to see it.

Re: Show HN: Drive any macOS app in the background without stealing the cursor

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Post by jorvi »

lukewarm707 wrote: post #44
jorvi wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again: telemetry isn't "spying" and it isn't "bugging" the application. It collects usage patterns: how often is which button being pressed by which type of user. It is not collecting data on you personally nor is it collecting the actual data you enter.

go on posthog: https://posthog.com/session-replay "Watch people use your product" - that's their own words! it literally sends you screen capture. and yes, you can id the user and capture inputs. YC 2020. we love to see it.

https://posthog.com/questions/how-to-hide-text-inputs

Of course the question remains if a company has "maskAllImages: true, maskAllTextInputs: true" (and I also wonder if they hide UI elements like message titles / contents), but that's why I mentioned I only turn on telemetry for companies that seem to explicitly, consistently and robustly care about privacy and security.

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