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Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#42

the stupidity to this is that it takes a meme and treats it like facts yes, numerous 30u30 have committed frauds, and yes this list is a paid list. but it's also full of other people who have been duped by what this list represents. compounding memes at the expense of truth just creates more problems than it solves

it’s not a paid list. Or at least it wasn’t, can’t say with certainty it didn’t change.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#43
post #40

Would say, the 30 under 30 list has like 600 people, not 30. So the fraud rate is quite a bit lower than headlines of seemingly 2 / 30. Its more like 2 / 600, which is maybe the baseline fraud rate?

Doesn't matter. It's always been based on vibes, now the vibe is fraud.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#45
post #12

Forbes "30 under 30" actually has like 600 people a year in 20 categories, and that's just in the USA. Add in international lists and the number rises to well over 1000. Since 2011 there have probably been, what, 10-15 thousand total "honorees"? ~12 instances of fraud in total is probably significantly below the corporate average. And the "risk index" is idiotic. Basically just companies the creator doesn't like, or…

Is "30 under 30" one of those schemes that require people to put themselves forward and maybe pay a fee? I've seen a bunch of "awards" (particularly for companies) that follow the same model.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#46

This seems extremely mean spirited.

Yes, but so? It provides a modicum of balance versus relentless hype by founders and the doting media. Even if not true it might remind people to have some healthy skepticism. The fact that your reflex is to find it "extremely mean spirited" speaks volumes. Everyone else in life gets shat apron because of other people's unscrupulous behavior, why are these people special? People should assume that there is a good chance any business venture is a fraud.

Ultimately it's one guy's opinion. It's not like he's going to ruin these people's lives or businesses.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#47

Some of these really don't make sense. The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird considering they actually have real users. Like sure, is it a VS code fork with agents stapled to it? Yes. But are they on the same scale as most of the people mentioned? Ehh probably not. It reads more like a hit piece from someone with a grudge against random SF companies than anything else.

It looks like the score number is just the number of times featured multiplied by a constant.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should have left off the last section. No reason to shame founders if no wrong doing

No reason to shame founders if no wrong doing If there's no wrong-doing, then there's nothing of which to be ashamed.

Missing /s at the end my dude.

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#49
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think they’re jealous of fraudsters?

What fraud have any of the companies under "risk index" committed?

Which bit of "risk index" are you not getting?

Alternatively: how are you in a position to claim they're 100% not frauds?

Re: Show HN: 30u30.fyi – Is your startup founder on Forbes' most fraudulent list?

#50
I'm all for the big names and ones that have proven issues and companies like Delve to be shamed

But Cursor? Why they are operating in a risky space on tech that is all new what ethical things did they do to warrent inclusion in this shame board?

Lets not tarnish folks either -cancel culture is worrisome there

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