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Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by artursapek »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #39
arrsingh wrote: post #32

This looks really nice! Congratulations on building something awesome, especially in a space that's "crowded" with the big players. I want to give kudos to two things: 1. It took you 10 months to build this. This is focused product development and craftsmanship which is very different from Vibe coding something. So let this be a reminder to all the "I can vibe code this or that in a weekend". Good products / experien…

> This is focused product development and craftsmanship which is very different from Vibe coding something. So let this be a reminder to all the "I can vibe code this or that in a weekend". Good products / experiences take time. How do you know? There isn't a git repo that one can see the history of, he could have coded this in one weekend and used the rest of the time doing noncoding activities. Also, he could have…

if you can build this in one weekend, I'd like to hire you

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by jitl »

the__alchemist wrote: post #13

Anecdote from a frustrated typer. There are no good word processors. MS office and Libre/open-whatever-they-call-it-now-office are bloated mess. I did a deep dive on this a few months ago, and there are 0 light/good options. There are a few that show up in google searches, but they are all disappointing in one way or another. So, thoughts on a non-AI lightweight word processor.

Pages.app on Apple platforms is free-as-in-beer, native & instantly responsive UI, launches in a handful of milliseconds, collaborative. Unsure if you would consider it a bloated mess or not; the UI is pretty minimal but still competent for most work.

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

artursapek wrote: post #26
the__alchemist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ty; will check it out. That wasn't one of the one I looked at. Edit: Ah I see, from the OP. Unfortunately, I think Subscription-based, web-app, and vibe-coded would individually be deal breakers. Combined indicates it's not the sort of tool I seek.

lol, ok bro

Friend, this is NOT how you talk within public for a product which mind you, might handle sensitive information.

Some people (myself included) will not like subscription-based, web app.

You worked 7 months on this project full time on your savings as you mention and you might've squandered any reputational gains from that with just three words and a comma.

Might as well go down in the history of hackernews but a bit negatively. I hope that you take a deeper look at how you respond online.

I have a suggestion but if you feel like you are not sure how to respond to a comment, then don't at the moment rather than typing this for example.

perhaps treat it as a learning exercise on how to answer such questions because if you ever market to anyone, customer or business. It is natural that they will ask such questions and so in a way, it might be beneficial.

Just my 2 cents.

Anecdotally, it takes a lot of patience to answer criticism in a good manner and definitely takes a lot of time to craft a good answer if you do go through that route but in the long term/even in the short term, those are some of the best messages that I have written personally which genuinely make me appreciate myself.

I wish that you can take a deeper reflection into such question as you are most likely going to be asked it quite often and having an good answer early on might be beneficial for your product.

have a nice day.

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

artursapek wrote: post #37

Thanks for the feedback. It seems my post got flag-bombed at some point. I can't reply to takahitoyoneda anvevoice techpulse_x or Remi_Etien. feel free to email me art@art.cx

Offtopic, but there is truly something about word. that I really like. I have the domain use.expert and art.cx is actually a good catch of a domain.

I also own mirror.forum

Good 5 letter (total word + tld) are actually pretty rare/almost exhausted now so good catch :)

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by artursapek »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #43
artursapek wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol, ok bro

Friend, this is NOT how you talk within public for a product which mind you, might handle sensitive information. Some people (myself included) will not like subscription-based, web app. You worked 7 months on this project full time on your savings as you mention and you might've squandered any reputational gains from that with just three words and a comma. Might as well go down in the history of hackernews but a bit…

I gave a good faith response initially, and got back a reply about how it's disqualified for being for "web based" and "a subscription". Even after I explained that the core product is completely free and even includes free LLM spellchecking. Web-based and subscription payments describes the majority of software out there today. If this is his criteria for dismissing a project outright then I'm not sure what to say other than "ok bro".

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by siscia »

There is a lot of positive comments in this comments section that I don't mind being a bit rough.

I think we can do much better.

The workflow of copy to chatgpt and getting feedback is just the first step, and honestly not that useful.

What I would love to see is a tool that makes my writing and thinking clearer.

Does this sentence makes sense? Does the conclusion I am reaching follows from what I am saying? Is this period useful or I am just repeating something I already said? Can I re-arrange my wording to make my point clear? Are my wording actually clear? Or am I not making sense?

Can I re-arrange my essay so that it is simpler to follow?

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by jitl »

It's cool to see a brand-new WIYSIWYG editor on the web, especially one using canvas for rendering from the start. How did you go about architecting the rendering and input layer? What are you using for text shaping and layout?

Bugs I found:

- when in a 3rd-level indented list loses focus

- Double-click and drag gesture does not extend text selection

- Selection highlight is offset for indented paragraphs. If you select a range you can see the highlight incorrectly extended into the right-hand margin.

- Inconsistent repro: had some cases where select -> delete -> cmd-z would not fully restore my removed text (this could be my mistake)

- Toggling list style of a single indented list item can un-indent entire list, removing hierarchy; I would expect toggling to eventually return me to my original state.

- Frustration: cannot set range of indented list to ordered list without affecting all adjacent list items

- Frustration: cannot resize table rows vertically

- Frustration: on macOS, ctrl-a selects all, where the platform native behavior would be to move selection to the start of the current paragraph. ctrl-e should move selection to the end of the current paragraph, but does nothing. (macOS silently supports readline/emacs style keybinds for text editing)

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

artursapek wrote: post #45
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Friend, this is NOT how you talk within public for a product which mind you, might handle sensitive information. Some people (myself included) will not like subscription-based, web app. You worked 7 months on this project full time on your savings as you mention and you might've squandered any reputational gains from that with just three words and a comma. Might as well go down in the history of hackernews but a bit…

I gave a good faith response initially, and got back a reply about how it's disqualified for being for "web based" and "a subscription". Even after I explained that the core product is completely free and even includes free LLM spellchecking. Web-based and subscription payments describes the majority of software out there today. If this is his criteria for dismissing a project outright then I'm not sure what to say o…

> then I'm not sure what to say other than "ok bro".

At that point, don't respond then :/

here's how I would've responded:

"Hey my project targets the niche similar to notion and others who are also web based for the most part and subscription model, reading your comments, you might be better of using non-web products and some of the suggestions in that include Qownnotes and zim. Here is a video in detail which talks about Simple, Non-Commercial, Open Source Notes for example which might help you find a solution for your needs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRpHIa-2XCE"

(Not saying that you needed to refer them to alternatives but as I knew of this video, if I were you, it might've made sense)

Another comment which doesn't talk about any other software but might've worked as well if you wished to respond:

"Hey, at some point, I do understand your take of everything turning into electron and browser-ified and software is taking 1 gigabyte of ram etc. and I understand this sentiment as well but I feel like that there is still an opportunity to make browser based subscription models towards the people who still wish for something convenient within their browser and for example, these can work absolutely great for students with their chromebooks which can have browser apps with genuine ease and targeting a large group of people to gain feedback from to hopefully improve my product even further in the future."

> Web-based and subscription payments describes the majority of software out there today

Yes and people are fed up of that too. I am sure that the alchemist isn't saying no to your product but saying yes to, for example notion. They are saying no to both and they are making their stance clear (as to why) and you are bound to have some people who are on the fence about the same thing (especially if you are launching within something like hackernews)

Edit: These are all thoughts that I can think of not even having launched anything from this product but I have sure tried my bunch of editors. I am definitely certain within your ability to write such messages as well and if you aren't, then that's completely fine too and I recommend in that case to not reply back for example.

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by _pdp_ »

There is a lot of positive comments in this thread so you are doing something right.

You asked for feedback though.

There are chat apps that basically incorporate all the features of this editor so I am not really sure who is this for.

If this is for writing, in order to make it amazing I would personally focus on using models that are either built for that or fine-tuned specifically for writing.

Otherwise, what is the point?

Notion can do the same, perhaps more.

Re: Show HN: Revise – An AI Editor for Documents

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Post by droidjj »

dbacar wrote: post #29
the__alchemist wrote: post #13

Anecdote from a frustrated typer. There are no good word processors. MS office and Libre/open-whatever-they-call-it-now-office are bloated mess. I did a deep dive on this a few months ago, and there are 0 light/good options. There are a few that show up in google searches, but they are all disappointing in one way or another. So, thoughts on a non-AI lightweight word processor.

I am not a defender of Word (2024) but it starts in 1-2 seconds in my laptop. Actually the speed is a problem when you have hundreds of pages with track changes and comments. Maybe you should check Wordperfect or WordStar ;)

I recently left a large law firm where Word took upwards of 30 seconds to launch. To be fair, I think the issue was the many large and buggy plugins that came preinstalled on everyone's machines. But it still left me glowering at the Microsoft Word logo multiple times a day.
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