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Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Searching for "DOMContentLoaded" gives me an error "'noresults' is not valid JSON" and the page gets stuck in an infinite refresh loop. Edit: It's actually unrelated to the search term, I get this for anything I search for. I'm using Vivaldi Android with adblocker on, maybe that's the problem.

Woah it was because I had run out of API credits, fixed! I'll improve the error screen for that. Sorry, did not expect this traffic, it's had several thousand searches today!

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

#42

Interesting project. Thanks for sharing. I am also a fan of DDG bangs and I see two missing features: 1. DDG supports bangs at any place in the query (even in the middle of it). I can search "topic !wiki" and it will work as expected. 2. DDG also supports following the first result in a query if a bare '!' is present in the query. Searching " hacker news !" will land me in the actual website without having to click a…

I actually did not know if these, but I definitely will implement those!

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

#43

You NEED to validate/escape untrusted input. Searching “ causes an error https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Input_Validat...

Yeah I really do need to, I'm not sure why I didn't from the start...

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

#44

How is it different from searxng then?

I see nilch as slightly more about being simplistic and not having many features that are unnecessary. I do share many of the values and benefits with searxng (and really love their work!), however this is also about my own specific desire for something that is clean and has very little that is unnecessary.

You don't need to touch any of the "unnecessary" features in SearXNG, it's as simple as any search engine, just write your query into the input and look at the results

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really interesting view, but I'm not sure I agree. So many amazing projects are truly free without the goal of profit yet their maintainers still do amazing work. I feel like part of the reason this works is because often the load is split between several maintainers (of which I hope to onboard soon, and have one or two offers already from people to contribute) and also the fact it's genuinely something enj…

Examples? If you are going to say something like linux, almost every developer gets paid to contribute to linux(I remember 95% commits have company attribution). Same with postgres etc.

They are paid, but the end used doesn't pay.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> developers of free-ish as in freedom products OWE it, not only to themselves, but their community to be as profitable as possible Wikipedia seems to do just fine without. Commercializing a product is a whole other field, and it's not reasonable to expect everyone to be good at that, and not reasonable to expect developers to all take on a second job of commercializing their hobby projects. Why don't YOU commerciali…

> Wikipedia seems to do just fine without. No, they still pay fair wage, and I would trust it more if it pays fair wage to people spending their time on the project(including the creator).

They pay fair wages because they have enough scale where pestering for donations once a year is enough to justify their costs and then some. And even then, this forum is very famous for shitting on such a large scale not-for-profits, with many justifying their decision not to donate by seeing how much money the non-profit already has in their pockets. The only reason we even know how much money the non-profit has in its pockets is because non-profits are legally obliged to publicly disclose that, while for-profits are not (until they go public of course).

My point being that it's a mountain to climb, and just because those at the top have already climbed it doesn't translate into everyone being able to climb it. It takes a whole lot of effort and probably some public grants, but getting those public grants is a whole different skill set than actually building the thing. And you can only get a public grant after you've already created something useful, so your idea of a non-profit quickly turns into an inescable hole in your pocket that you're desperately trying to fill for at least a year or two.

This is why while our lists might vary, every single one of us can only name like 5, maybe 10 non-profits that have "made it" (however we define that success).

All that said, go set up a reocurring $2/month donation to your favourite non-profit right now. Whether you choose Wikimedia or something else, I'm sure it's well worth 10% of a monthly subscription you're already paying for an LLM or whatever. Unlike your for-profit subscriptions, if the money becomes tight you can always cancel these without losing anything.

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