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Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

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Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

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I e been wanting to do this with a basic stuffed animal now for a while. Just basic interactions with a child plus lessons and a voice would be game changing for the toy world.

If you like point and click adventures check out https://store.steampowered.com/app/1426010/STASIS_BONE_TOTEM... - one of the playable characters is an AI teddy bear and is a great character with fantastic writing.

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how well suited some of the smaller LLMs like Qwen 0.6B would be suited to this... it doesn't sound like a super complicated task. I also feel like you can train a model on this task by using the zero-shot performance of larger models to create a dataset, making something very zippy.

I wondered similar. Perhaps a local model cached in a 16GB or 24GB graphics card would perform well too. It would have to be a quantized/distilled model, but maybe sufficient, especially with some additional training as you mentioned.

16Gb is way overkill for this.

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

#44

"ah, you hesitated" no more so than on every single other question. the delay for the GPT to process a response is very unnerving. I find it worse than when the news is interviewing a remote site with a delay between responses. maybe if the eyes had LEDs to indicate activity rather than it just sitting there??? waiting for a GPT to do its thing is always going to force a delay especially when pushing the request to t…

beyond the prototyping phase, which hosted models make very easy, there's little reason this couldn't use a very small optimized model on device... it would be significantly faster/safer in an end product (but significantly less flexible for prototyping)

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

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> the delay for the GPT to process a response is very unnerving I'm not sure I agree. The way the tentacle stops moving and shoots upright when you start talking to it gives me the intuitive impression that it's paying attention and thinking. Pretty cute!

it's the "thinking" frozen state while it uploads and waits for a GPT response that is unnerving. if the eyes did something to indicate progress is being made, then it would remove the desire to ask it if it is working or something. the last thing I want to be is that PM asking for a status update, but some indication it was actually processing the request would be ideal. even if there was a new animation with the ta…

Back when Anki (the robotics company) was building Cosmo, a *lot* of thought was put into making it expressive about everything that was going on. It really did a good job of making it feel "alive" for lack of a better word.

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

#47

I e been wanting to do this with a basic stuffed animal now for a while. Just basic interactions with a child plus lessons and a voice would be game changing for the toy world.

Like using phones as babysitters, just 100x worse. I don't doubt someone's gonna invent it, but yikes. Imagine telling kiddo their beloved sentient toy is dead because mum and dad can't afford the ever-rising subscription fees anymore.

A teddy bear is too bulky for convenience. How about Tamagotchi but it talks to you. Talkagotchi. Basically that horrible Friend necklace but in a cutely-colored egg shape that clips to your backpack. I want to not be alive.

edit: when my kid asks for one I'll know it's time to move the family to a cabin deep in the woods.

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

#48
post #25

This is so cool! I love the idea of adding expressivity to non verbal, non human entities.

Agreed! I think the Pixar lamp is a great starting point. Having the robot be able to flex and bend, shake yes/no, look curious or upset, and perhaps even let it control LEDs to express itself.

I’ve seen this from some Apple research lab recently…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jgCxnlbFY

Re: Show HN: Shoggoth Mini – A soft tentacle robot powered by GPT-4o and RL

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post #21

"ah, you hesitated" no more so than on every single other question. the delay for the GPT to process a response is very unnerving. I find it worse than when the news is interviewing a remote site with a delay between responses. maybe if the eyes had LEDs to indicate activity rather than it just sitting there??? waiting for a GPT to do its thing is always going to force a delay especially when pushing the request to t…

> also, "GPT-4o continuously listens to speech through the audio stream," is going to be problematic This seems like a good place to leverage a wake word library, perhaps openWakeWord or porcupine. Then the user could wake the device before sending the prompt off to an endpoint. It could even have a resting or snoozing animation, then have it perk up when the wake word triggers. Eerie to view, I'm sure... https://git…

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