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Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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It’s a bit awkward that “in 2025” (your words) you’re focusing so heavily on gender, especially with a subpar implementation: You only allow “male” and “female” (which right off the bat will make many people close the website, even if they identify with either), have zero checks (as if people didn’t lie about that on the internet all the time), and make people type it themselves (when it should be a dropdown or radio…

>which right off the bat will make many people close the website What world are you living in?

If you don’t think that happens, you’re not paying attention to the zeitgeist.

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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post #4

It’s a bit awkward that “in 2025” (your words) you’re focusing so heavily on gender, especially with a subpar implementation: You only allow “male” and “female” (which right off the bat will make many people close the website, even if they identify with either), have zero checks (as if people didn’t lie about that on the internet all the time), and make people type it themselves (when it should be a dropdown or radio…

> which right off the bat will make many people close the website

These people dominate every other discussion online and it makes me like his site even more if they’re not there. Most people feel the same way as me.

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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You could just use what's on your license or ID. The site seems to be a kind of dating/singles chat, if that's the case having genders/sexes makes some sense, although indeed it could be better.

> You could just use what's on your license or ID. Not only could that not match your real gender, there are places where IDs allow for more than those two options. https://www.bustle.com/p/12-states-with-a-third-gender-optio...

What’s a “real gender”?

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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You could just use what's on your license or ID. The site seems to be a kind of dating/singles chat, if that's the case having genders/sexes makes some sense, although indeed it could be better.

My ID says D for "diverse". Equivalent to X in the US. What now?

Choose the one that would get assigned to you socially. The gender filter is about what other people want to talk to, not what you consider yourself

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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post #41

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>which right off the bat will make many people close the website What world are you living in?

If you don’t think that happens, you’re not paying attention to the zeitgeist.

No offense, but you are in a bubble.

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could just use what's on your license or ID. The site seems to be a kind of dating/singles chat, if that's the case having genders/sexes makes some sense, although indeed it could be better.

My ID says D for "diverse". Equivalent to X in the US. What now?

maybe be real?

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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post #45
post #41

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If you don’t think that happens, you’re not paying attention to the zeitgeist.

No offense, but you are in a bubble.

Living in a bubble means you are unaware of outside perspectives.

For instance, if person A says “there are people who believe the Earth is flat” and person B denies they exist, the latter is living in a bubble because they are unaware of other widespread ideas (regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof). Person A doesn’t need to believe or agree with a viewpoint to understand there are people who do.

I have met people who would reject the website for that reason and those who wouldn’t. By all means, discuss and disagree with it, but don’t close your eyes and ears and deny their existence. If you don’t realise both camps exist, by definition you are the one in the bubble.

Which I don’t fault you for, because to an extent we all live in bubbles. It is impossible for any human in one lifetime to be aware of all different realities. The very fact that we have access to HN and choose to comment here already places us in a bubble which excludes most of the world. Every other facet of our lives puts us in different bubbles of different sizes for different contexts. To believe oneself immune to or devoid of bubbles falls somewhere between the naive and the arrogant.

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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post #48
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but you are in a bubble.

Living in a bubble means you are unaware of outside perspectives. For instance, if person A says “there are people who believe the Earth is flat” and person B denies they exist, the latter is living in a bubble because they are unaware of other widespread ideas (regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof). Person A doesn’t need to believe or agree with a viewpoint to understand there are people who do. I have met p…

What I mean by "living in a bubble" is you believing something that is not true, because everyone in the bubble is telling you its true.

Hence you believing that only including M/F as gender options is something that would greatly affect the success of an app.

That is flat out not true. I promise you the vast majority of the world, or even the vast majority of the anglosphere do not care. People like the OP from other cultures do not even understand what you are talking about. Only your bubble believes it to be relevant.

Re: Show HN: Back to one-time end-to-end encrypted anonymous chats in 2025

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Living in a bubble means you are unaware of outside perspectives. For instance, if person A says “there are people who believe the Earth is flat” and person B denies they exist, the latter is living in a bubble because they are unaware of other widespread ideas (regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof). Person A doesn’t need to believe or agree with a viewpoint to understand there are people who do. I have met p…

What I mean by "living in a bubble" is you believing something that is not true, because everyone in the bubble is telling you its true. Hence you believing that only including M/F as gender options is something that would greatly affect the success of an app. That is flat out not true. I promise you the vast majority of the world, or even the vast majority of the anglosphere do not care. People like the OP from othe…

> Hence you believing that only including M/F as gender options is something that would greatly affect the success of an app.

That is neither what I believe nor what I wrote. You are making up that argument in your head and attacking a straw man.

If you open a restaurant which only serves spicy food and I tell you “many people won’t come here because they dislike spicy food” while giving you a list of reasons why your spices aren’t even applied correctly, that is not the same as saying “only having spicy food will greatly affect the success of your restaurant”. Rather, it is asking you to consider if you really need to limit yourself to one kind of food.

That should be obvious from my post (and apparently was for most people). My criticism was respectful and focused precisely on asking why be so adamant about something which isn’t verified, is notoriously lied about, and isn’t even relevant to the stated goal.

Perhaps look inward and consider if your own bubble is instilling in you a knee-jerk reaction to instinctively categorise the words of strangers into one-dimensional categories you must agree or disagree with, completely missing any nuance and distorting your own perception of reality.

> People like the OP from other cultures do not even understand what you are talking about.

Obviously and demonstrably false.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43320313

Please stop ascribing beliefs to and assuming ignorance in other people. That is the definition of thinking in a bubble. I urge you to reexamine your own ideals and understanding of the global world we inhabit.

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