This looks really really cool but I do hate everything being subscriptions. Everyone trying to be a digital landlord out here. Just sell me something.
Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
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Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#42In a similar vein: https://www.spyder-ide.org/ (MIT-licensed)
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Do you think Cursor is charging too much for their VSCode fork? Many thousands of devs disagree with you…
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#43this is very cool!
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#44I've been doing Python development for a long time, since when 2.4 was the hottest thing.
I've used the language for all sorts of things: web apps, web APIs, GUI tools, image manipulation, data processing and visualization, some data science, machine learning more recently.
I've used many IDEs over the years, currently on PyCharm.
Just to qualify the feedback.
Pros:
- It looks very pretty.
- Some nice time saving features.
Cons:
- Mac only.
- Subscription business model.
- Having to tie the code to the IDE.
Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me.
Overall I'm not sure what the target market is. Maybe I'm just too used to having free and/or libre tooling.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#45Oh, this looks really grea... oh, it's another $20/m subscription...
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is 20$/month absurd for something that boosts productivity? What does matlab coat nowadays? Sounds like he'd like to be able to improve it further and clients invest in that. Absurd is people paying 80$+/month for yt tv so they can watch ads.. My opinions.
Reasonable question but I think people are just burnt out by the Silicon Valley pricing model that has proliferated everywhere. * Most consumers now swallow a live service model and associated costs that they don’t want * Most consumers now swallow the costs of west coast tech culture: cost of living, esoteric architectural choices, fad driven development, and hobby driven development * Most owners of software busine…
This in particular looks like a solo project that probably took around a year.
Say OP sells 1000 subscriptions. That's 20 thousand dollars a month. They sell 10k subs, 200k a month.
Or the project fails, and as a closed source tool I can't fork and fix issues. The only options are it becoming a multi million dollar company or abandonware.
I'd be open to it if it was 100$ with one year of free updates. But even then, I think Visual Studio( which is free for hobbyist) is the only closed source IDE I use. Everything else is open source and free.
Maybe I've been traumatized by Unity 3D, but I don't want to use a bunch of closed source tools. What if this becomes my primary dev tool, and OP decides to update the pricing.
If you're justification for a $20 subscription is that oh you're probably making six figures and this is making your job easier, then what's to stop you from pricing it at $50 a month. Why not a hundred .
Open AI has already started this bizarre slide into higher pricing tiers, I can use Deepseek or LLma3 for free, but if I'm using the most up-to-date chat GPT, I'll run into a rate limit and be told it's time to upgrade to a $200 a month service?!
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#47In a similar vein: https://www.spyder-ide.org/ (MIT-licensed)
Spyder is the reason I could become Computer Scientist. When transitioning from MechE -> CS, every programming interface felt unintuitive and daunting to set up. Spyder made it so simple to get started. It turned python into a Matlab-esque numeric computing interface, got out of your way and let you built whatever you wanted. It reduced the 'time to magic' like no other tool I'd tried. (Can I coin the term : 'time to…
Even though the term "time to magic" has already been coined, it think it's the key, pivotal, lynchpin thing. Making the time to magic short is what makes or breaks a product's adoption. Products with a very short time to magic win, despite whatever other technical flaws they may have: PHP, Twitter, and Docker are all great examples.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#48In a similar vein: https://www.spyder-ide.org/ (MIT-licensed)
Thanks for sharing. The OP posted a cool project, but 20$ a month for a nice VS code fork is absurd. Plus it's Mac only now.
Depends on your ROI. If the tool saves you much more, $20/mo could be very reasonable. This IDE is rather narrowly focused on easily doing numerical code and visualizations. If you were doing it every day and were cringing every time at the thought of using your current setup, the product would be for you.
https://xkcd.com/1205/ provides an idea of the cost of the time spent by improving a tool, or, equivalently, saved by paying for it. If you're paid even $50 an hour, a $20 / mo tool that saves you 30 minutes a month, cumulative, is already worth paying for. And this thing can save hours and hours a month for a particular kind of work.
Re: Show HN: Scripton – Python IDE with built-in realtime visualizations
#49I've been doing Python development for a long time, since when 2.4 was the hottest thing. I've used the language for all sorts of things: web apps, web APIs, GUI tools, image manipulation, data processing and visualization, some data science, machine learning more recently. I've used many IDEs over the years, currently on PyCharm. Just to qualify the feedback. Pros: - It looks very pretty. - Some nice time saving fea…
> currently on PyCharm. ... Cons: Subscription business model. ... Any one of the con's would be a deal breaker for me.
I'm curious to understand this better (as a fan of JetBrains): do you currently use PyCharm Community or does the JetBrains model not count as a subscription for you?
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#50OP, you're selling your tool to the wrong people. HN is not the crowd. This is for core-engineers who want to get value out of coding. Find people who pay the $1000/yr to use 1 tool in Matlab, and start pulling them away.
There are plenty of that type of person here on HN, we're not all engineers.