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Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by computerthings »

delichon wrote: post #21

The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable" ― George Orwell, Essays So this is a "something not desirable done by the current US administration" tracker.

People us "AI" all the time without quotes, but this is where we pretend to care about literal definitions? Yeah, right.

> Donald Trump's policies resemble an administrative coup d'état, says journalist Annika Brockschmidt. He and Elon Musk are undermining the separation of powers in the USA and disregarding civil rights. The political opponent is becoming overtired.

https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/in-den-usa-findet-ein-adminis...

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by conductr »

delichon wrote: post #21

The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable" ― George Orwell, Essays So this is a "something not desirable done by the current US administration" tracker.

I do like that this outlines some vetted tenets of fascism versus the hand-wavy name-cally ways it gets thrown around so much.

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by davkan »

SirMaster wrote: post #37
9283409232 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the meaning. > fascism /făsh′ĭz″əm/ > A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Looks to me that a lot of the current happenings in the US are heading in this direction.

> subject to stringent governmental controls Isn't the current admin trying to do the opposite?

I agree deregulation is a focus of the current admin but there is also control. See pam bondi threatening to prosecute private companies with DEI programs. If you consider healthcare to be industry it would be one of our largest and he has implemented anti trans control there as well.

I expect overall deregulation regarding safety and environment etc will continue but alongside it there will be strict directives that comport with the right wing social and ideological agendas.

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by cycomanic »

rufus_foreman wrote: post #36
visekr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to tap into that eventually! Right now I'm using an API that give me a dump of like all articles and I filter that through a list of 'credible' sources. I'm not the most educated about what are good sources for this but this is my current one. (it also shows on the site under - 'what is this') Would loveee feedback on this list. Allowed Sources Major Wire Services (1.0) Reuters, AP, AFP, Bloomberg Top US New…

>> Would loveee feedback on this list OK, my feedback is that it is a very left leaning list of sources. I use a site, https://www.allsides.com , that does media bias ratings and rates sites from -6 (high left bias) to 6 (high right bias), and outside of the ones you have listed specifically listed as "Conservative Media", every site that I could find was negative, other than the FT which was listed as "Center" with…

If a website rates the economist as left leaning it's maybe a sign of the bias in the evaluation and how much the discourse has been pushed to the right (in the US at least)

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Post by mariusor »

loki49152 wrote: post #35
mariusor wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you'd care for a semiotician's perspective about the attributes of fascism, and one that lived through a fascist regime to boot, there's the seminal essay by Umberto Eco about what "Ur-Fascism" is: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/ They seem to be slightly different than the ones OP uses for the classification, but they are reasonably close.

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I could understand saying you don't agree with the list, but calling it nonsense is a bit of a cheek. He might be a random guy who said stuff, but that's how the advancement of reason and philosophy usually works. His credentials, academical and literary are very far above any of ours here on HN, so forgive me for dismissing your words as pure bullshit or, in the modern parlance: copium.

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by leovingi »

davkan wrote: post #44
SirMaster wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> subject to stringent governmental controls Isn't the current admin trying to do the opposite?

I agree deregulation is a focus of the current admin but there is also control. See pam bondi threatening to prosecute private companies with DEI programs. If you consider healthcare to be industry it would be one of our largest and he has implemented anti trans control there as well. I expect overall deregulation regarding safety and environment etc will continue but alongside it there will be strict directives that…

>See pam bondi threatening to prosecute private companies with DEI programs

And previously private companies were being threatened with lawsuits due to disparate impact in hiring, which lead to the creation of said DEI programs

If you consider the current situation control and a precursor towards fascism, you have to consider the past situation in the same light

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by littlestymaar »

leovingi wrote: post #47
davkan wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree deregulation is a focus of the current admin but there is also control. See pam bondi threatening to prosecute private companies with DEI programs. If you consider healthcare to be industry it would be one of our largest and he has implemented anti trans control there as well. I expect overall deregulation regarding safety and environment etc will continue but alongside it there will be strict directives that…

>See pam bondi threatening to prosecute private companies with DEI programs And previously private companies were being threatened with lawsuits due to disparate impact in hiring, which lead to the creation of said DEI programs If you consider the current situation control and a precursor towards fascism, you have to consider the past situation in the same light

But who threatened? If you fail to see the difference between legal actions from private entities and threats by a government that shows it doesn't feel bounded by laws (see illegal actions from the memecoin department) then you should probably refrain from giving your opinion…

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by leereeves »

visekr wrote: post #8
cootsnuck wrote: post #5

Slick design, I like it. Could just be me but with characteristic-level severity levels it's not immediately clear to me if they're referring to like the categorical severity (e.g. "when labor power is suppressed that's a critical sign of encroaching fascism") or the present-day severity (e.g. "recent news points to there being critical levels of labor suppression happening right now"). I can suss out that it seems t…

Good feedback! ill work on making it a bit more clear. as for the time-dependance / algorithm, good question .I'm still working on tweaking it, right now recency has a 30% weight. I just started this last thursday so im quite unsure how things will change / look on the site over time and what makes sense for a half life / decay of an article.

You need to work on your classification algorithm. Classifying anti-Trump mass media articles as "controlled mass media" is just embarrassing.

Re: Show HN: Watch fascism unfold in realtime – an AI-powered tracker

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Post by leereeves »

cycomanic wrote: post #45
rufus_foreman wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Would loveee feedback on this list OK, my feedback is that it is a very left leaning list of sources. I use a site, https://www.allsides.com , that does media bias ratings and rates sites from -6 (high left bias) to 6 (high right bias), and outside of the ones you have listed specifically listed as "Conservative Media", every site that I could find was negative, other than the FT which was listed as "Center" with…

If a website rates the economist as left leaning it's maybe a sign of the bias in the evaluation and how much the discourse has been pushed to the right (in the US at least)

It's a reasonable take on the actual political climate in the US. Trump has a 50% approval rating, the border between approving and disapproving of him is mathematically (approximately) the political center.
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