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Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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I think it’s critically important to mention that the VA provided all this data to Ancestry.com years ago. According to the newletter op linked, Ancestry.com charges $300/year for access to this data. This unfairness is what prompted the lawsuit and ultimate release of data.

Indeed. This is ABSOLUTELY not the first time we’ve dealt with a government agency (at the local, state, or federal levels) providing a copy of a public dataset to Ancestry.com and not to the general public. Our taxpayer-funded data keeps ending up solely behind a $300/year paywall. It’s not fair. (Also, the stripped-down version of BIRLS that has been on the Ancestry website for a while now is much smaller and older…

Tremendous work on this, thanks for the work to unlock these records for the public.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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If and when the VA locates the file, scans it, and redacts it, you should expect to receive a DVD in the mail containing the newly-digitized images of the materials several weeks or months after your initial acknowledgement letter has arrived.

Ha, the only device I have with DVD is a PS5, this should be fun.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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I believe you should work to limit exposure of sensitive information like SSN: while it's ok to allow search by an exact SSN, you should probably not display it unless the requestor already knows what it is. OTOH, if you have really succesfully worked to make this database public domain and do publish it somewhere (and you did, as I can see at https://archive.org/details/BIRLS_database ), this wouldn't be of much hel…

The VA worked to confirm that everyone in this dataset is deceased, in order to satisfy the judge’s order, and produced an internal document about how they did it — which we then FOIAed and posted online too. (It’s up on the site, next to the legal paperwork.) The veterans and their SSNs are believed to have been deceased prior to mid-2020, checked by the VA’s internal datasets as well as public data sets such as the…

Have you ever worried about your impact on veterans? Maybe not a concern?

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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I previously tried getting military records for my deceased grandfather. From what I can recall, it was complicated by the fact that I wasn't "next of kin", which would limit the data I'd have access to. Even my parent, who was next of kin, would have needed additional paperwork as proof, e.g. a death/marriage certificate for my grandmother. On one hand, if this works then I'll be happy to have the information I othe…

The processes for getting these very particular records (C-Files, as opposed to something like an OMPF or other better known military records) has been horrendously broken for years. They were almost completely inaccessible from this specific agency (the VBA, inside the VA) their entire existence. Only 5% of the files have been turned over to NARA, even for records that are very old. And even now, the “processes” to…

But that may be bad actually.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The VA worked to confirm that everyone in this dataset is deceased, in order to satisfy the judge’s order, and produced an internal document about how they did it — which we then FOIAed and posted online too. (It’s up on the site, next to the legal paperwork.) The veterans and their SSNs are believed to have been deceased prior to mid-2020, checked by the VA’s internal datasets as well as public data sets such as the…

Have you ever worried about your impact on veterans? Maybe not a concern?

The veterans in the data set are all deceased, and I have not heard any complaints from them so far.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever worried about your impact on veterans? Maybe not a concern?

The veterans in the data set are all deceased, and I have not heard any complaints from them so far.

The VA who you sued does serve vets with whatever money they dont spend fighting you.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

#49

Really hope op and crew are sued to oblivion.

Actually, “op and crew” were the Plaintiffs (well, really the Petitioners, to be pedantic) who already sued the VA for this database in federal court (SDNY), and won that multi-year lawsuit, and even won our attorneys fees too. If you had checked our website, you’d see we even posted the court papers online for free, from both sides — and the judge’s order in our favor, of course.

Re: Show HN: New search engine and free-FOIA-by-fax-via-web for US veteran records

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The veterans in the data set are all deceased, and I have not heard any complaints from them so far.

The VA who you sued does serve vets with whatever money they dont spend fighting you.

The VA is obligated to follow the law as it relates to open records. Broadly speaking, America actively chooses to treat vets poorly. Call your Congressional rep (who directly controls policy that controls funding) versus taking your feelings out on your fellow citizen working for little or no pay to encourage government accountability as it relates to their legal obligations.
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