Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 54 posts

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#41

Post by kristiandupont »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #12
rognjen wrote: post #9

While admirable, a one time payment for a service you host is fair neither to you (what if I use it for 10 years) nor me (what if you shutdown tomorrow). On the other hand, a one time fee for analytics I could deploy on my server a) makes financial sense for you and b) is an intriguing value proposition for me. Have a look at https://once.com/

The irony of ONCE is that the company behind it makes 8 figures annually on recurring revenue. They can afford to launch products with unsustainable business models just to get some PR

I don't think ONCE is a loss leading marketing device for them. That would also seem like a pretty poor strategy, as those users are pretty unlikely to convert.

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#42

Post by Timwi »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #13

As genuine feedback, you have a long way to go. First of all, plausible can be self hosted and it won't cost you a dime. Secondly, there are atleast 50 analytics services out there that are self hostable and they clearly indicate what features they provide. It is good expect value for your efforts but the other person buying for 49$ also needs to see value. Perhaps add a list of features, some GIFs, screenshots of yo…

GIFs??

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#43

Post by debian3 »

otherme123 wrote: post #16
grenran wrote: post #11

> Problem is, I didn't feel like paying 9$ a month to see the amount of visitors on a website i didn't even earn anything on You can self-host Plausible yourself if you don't feel like paying $9 a month.

I'm doing this, is relatively easy if you are used to docker, and one instance can be used to track multiple small sites. My problem with self hosted Plausible is that the backup-restore of the clickhouse db isn't as easy. If my service blows, I currently have to start the stats from zero.

Is it me that doesn’t see the obvious, or backing up with docker is not as easy as it could be? VM are much easier to backup for exemple.

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#44

Post by eole666 »

Congrats for the launch ! How does it compare to Matomo ?

Matomo is a well known open source Analytics alternative, GDPR compliant, used by millions, and it seems to solve the same problem while being freely self-hostable and offering more features. Its cloud version price is more expensive than yours thought.

=> https://matomo.org/

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#45

Post by otherme123 »

debian3 wrote: post #43
otherme123 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm doing this, is relatively easy if you are used to docker, and one instance can be used to track multiple small sites. My problem with self hosted Plausible is that the backup-restore of the clickhouse db isn't as easy. If my service blows, I currently have to start the stats from zero.

Is it me that doesn’t see the obvious, or backing up with docker is not as easy as it could be? VM are much easier to backup for exemple.

With docker you get the DB engine, in the case of Plausible is Clickhouse, and the data is up to you (is in the Docker volumes). I needed to migrate from machine A to machine B, and while redeploying Plausible engine was a breeze, I was unable to take a full backup of the Clickhouse data, and following their docs I could only get the backup file, but was unable to restore it. Then, IIRC, I did data dumps, one per table, but some dumps loaded cleanly while others refused, losing some details. OTOH, backuping and restoring the Postgres data was as easy as it Docker wasn't involved. Sumup: the problem was not Docker or Plausible, but Clickhouse.

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#46

Post by mathgeek »

Timwi wrote: post #42
vivzkestrel wrote: post #13

As genuine feedback, you have a long way to go. First of all, plausible can be self hosted and it won't cost you a dime. Secondly, there are atleast 50 analytics services out there that are self hostable and they clearly indicate what features they provide. It is good expect value for your efforts but the other person buying for 49$ also needs to see value. Perhaps add a list of features, some GIFs, screenshots of yo…

GIFs??

What is you question here? Plenty of sites use animated images rather than video to demonstrate their product.

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#47

Post by weird-eye-issue »

phartenfeller wrote: post #38
solardev wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have a look at https://once.com/ ...from the company behind Basecamp and Hey.com, both subscriptions.

...and campfire, a one time fee slack alternative. Are people allowed to change their views?

Does anybody use it? There was a lot of hype on Twitter when it first came out and I haven't heard a single thing since then. Who wants to install that on a VPS and be responsible when it goes down when they could just use a Discord server or Slack?

Re: Show HN: It took me 5() months to build a Plausible alternative

#49

Post by vivzkestrel »

Timwi wrote: post #42
vivzkestrel wrote: post #13

As genuine feedback, you have a long way to go. First of all, plausible can be self hosted and it won't cost you a dime. Secondly, there are atleast 50 analytics services out there that are self hostable and they clearly indicate what features they provide. It is good expect value for your efforts but the other person buying for 49$ also needs to see value. Perhaps add a list of features, some GIFs, screenshots of yo…

GIFs??

create GIFs to show common use cases that analytics users would actually expect like out of all the people that came to my website, how many of them signed up, or how many of them added something to the cart and did not buy etc. Add GIFs that showcase the dashboards from your product for these actions
Post reply on HN