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Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by lagniappe »

mp5 wrote: post #33
kevo1ution wrote: post #21

My primary usage of cursor is cmd+L and cmd+K, I'll give it a shot. Also, makes sense to make an open source alternative. How do you plan on monetizing?

We plan on selling to enterprise companies. We know a lot of companies want to keep their repos private and so we offer them on-prem hosting options. Closed source tools can't really do this because they have to keep their prompt building algorithms behind a private API that they own. This seems to work pretty well for Codeium, which offers its product free to consumers (at a loss), and is still able to make net prof…

>We know a lot of companies want to keep their repos private and so we offer them on-prem hosting options.

Is there anything more than this?

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by nunobrito »

Plus points if keeping the tool free for home/OSS users and then charge for corporate or on-premise deployments.

One critical question to the users:

Is Void able to understand the source code files from the project as a whole?

What I mean is being able to read the project, and then make suggestions based on the code that was written and propose new functions? For example, I would see it as fantastic to write unit tests where I'd say: "Please write a unit test that is verifying the functions on ABC.class" or "update the unit tests for ABC.class".

I know it is difficult for an LLM to create a valid result on the first try, but at least it does same me a lot of time creating a skeleton with most of the functions and samples already there. Most times just have to fine tune or fix a few parts but can say it amplifies my output speed by at least 10x to have that kind of functionality.

What is your impression? Can it read all source code files on the project?

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by prasoonds »

thih9 wrote: post #14
prasoonds wrote: post #5

This is cool! I'm a regular user of Cursor (I barely write any code now - just prompt and tab tab tab). The thing that's really keeping me in Cursor (vs decamping for Zed) is NOT the Cmd K or the sidebar chat. It's actual Cursor's Tab autocomplete model. I've tried many other tab completion models and Cursor Tab blows them out of the water. Supermaven's new release is promising, however. For the use-case you're solvi…

Curious: what is your use case for cursor, i.e. what is the problem domain or complexity level (on a scale from boilerplate code to core architecture) that you typically work with? Also what plan are you on and is that enough for your needs?

Hi, we're working with an large typescript codebase and I develop fully fledged features with Cursor which involve non-trivial UI wiring up work. Decent amount of state management using React too.

It's definitely not boilerplate level code - but it also also stops well short of architecture level work. Here's a recent prompt of me trying to implement line-by-line diff generation: https://pastebin.com/WRJpNwqc

When I need to do architectural/design work, I do it in multiple passes, not generating any code, just lots detailed text with tons of feedback/back-and-forth with the model.

I'm on the pro plan but it's not enough for my needs - I run through the quota in 10-15 days. Then, I revert to using Sonnet 3.5 via API key.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by JustFinishedBSG »

hansoolo wrote: post #10
BoorishBears wrote: post #4

I'm surprised no one in targeting Jetbrains IDEs as seriously as Cursor has targeted vscode. I'd imagine Jetbrains users are much more willing to pay, and the non-AI intelligence Webstorm has baked in save me almost as much cognitive load as Cursor does if not more compared to base vscode. I tried Continue but it wasn't very smooth at all.

AFAIK jetbrains has an AI Assistant now, too. But I cannot say anything about how it works.

It's close to useless.

I would know, I made the mistake of paying yearly.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by selcuka »

kevo1ution wrote: post #20
selcuka wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was sub-par when I last tried it, like many things JetBrains have been doing these days. I love their products, and I would be sad if they can't stay competitive, but it looks like they are taking all the wrong turns.

you can try https://firebender.com . Its specifically designed for android studio, but still works well for intellij. I use it every day to develop the plugin itself.

Thanks. I'm already using GitHub CoPilot, but will give this a try.

Honestly speaking I'm not a big fan of chat based assistants, which was one of my complaints about IntelliJ's own assistant. Auto-complete feels more natural, although I can see that the suggestions might be more accurate and to the point with the chat based ones.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by langitbiru »

BoorishBears wrote: post #4

I'm surprised no one in targeting Jetbrains IDEs as seriously as Cursor has targeted vscode. I'd imagine Jetbrains users are much more willing to pay, and the non-AI intelligence Webstorm has baked in save me almost as much cognitive load as Cursor does if not more compared to base vscode. I tried Continue but it wasn't very smooth at all.

There is Cody (https://sourcegraph.com/cody). But their "applying code" feature is worse than Cursor. They put import lines on the bottom of the file, for example. Cursor's "applying code" is superb. Too bad it cannot be used with another IDE.

Re: Show HN: Void, an open-source Cursor/GitHub Copilot alternative

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Post by [deleted] »

cvzakharchenko wrote: post #24

Oh, I’m yet to find a good alternative to Cursor’s RAG-powered side chat. It helps me work with huge codebases so much. Tried Continue, but it’s very unstable, and doesn’t work as well. Would prefer a command line solution, vscode plugin is the next choice, having a separate editor is not ideal, but I’m glad there’s some competition.

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