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Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by pavlov »

andybak wrote: post #23
pavlov wrote: post #8

One interesting development from generative AI is that it has opened a lot more people's eyes to seeing kitsch. Professional artists generally don't see great value in the style of art exemplified by these AI-powered image generators. It tends to be formulaic, derivative, and melodramatic with all the high-contrast portraits and sunsets and oversaturated pastoral landscapes. But popular taste has been in many ways st…

You're conflating "art commonly created by these AI-powered image generators" with "art that AI is capable of". Just because most people create things that you categorise as kitsch should not fool you into thinking that's an inherent limitation. There's almost no limit to the kind of images that can be created given the right input. Unless you want to define kitsch as "anything that an AI image generator is capable o…

It’s the opposite really. I’m not claiming anything about AI image generators. I’m saying that people have quite limited tastes, and so they end up going for kitsch because it looks good at first glance.

But now that it’s so easy to generate, will it mean a shift in taste? The current crop of AI art looks the same because enough people think those limited styles are good. But in ten years, users may be a lot more demanding.

Think about 1950s pop music, before the invention of electric guitars and synthesizers and sequencers. The range of musical expression is quite limited to modern ears. But at the time, it was uncontested among ordinary listeners that “good music” had that particular sound. There was an enormous gulf between avant garde contemporary music and pop music, just like in art today.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by barbazoo »

dylan604 wrote: post #32
barbazoo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question then, how do you do something like this with PS or Gimp?

Lots of layers and lots of mattes. You take any picture of a person, and matte them out of the background. You then find a background you like, and arrange as you see fit. You then find whatever hair style you like, and matte it in as well. Plenty of other filters involved as well. Hell, you can even play with this stuff in Illustrator to get the "painted" look by converting to vectors. How many magazine covers do yo…

Ok, so it's more than just "pretty basic Photoshop filters" like OP suggested.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by dylan604 »

barbazoo wrote: post #42
dylan604 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of layers and lots of mattes. You take any picture of a person, and matte them out of the background. You then find a background you like, and arrange as you see fit. You then find whatever hair style you like, and matte it in as well. Plenty of other filters involved as well. Hell, you can even play with this stuff in Illustrator to get the "painted" look by converting to vectors. How many magazine covers do yo…

Ok, so it's more than just "pretty basic Photoshop filters" like OP suggested.

Well, they just said it looks like basic filters, and to an extent they are not wrong. PS has had filters that give a "paint" look/feel to it, and they would still be useful to do this in PS. They didn't say that's all that would be needed. Those filters are basic filters in PS as they are included and not 3rd party separate purchases.

Your interpretation of the original comment into saying it was simple is a bit skewed

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by nicce »

dylan604 wrote: post #31
irrational wrote: post #13

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Why the rush?

Because someone else could be first?

If the service takes any money, it should not be hurried.

Missing privacy policy, no physical address et. will get you flagged as scam site in EU pretty fast.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by dylan604 »

nicce wrote: post #44
dylan604 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because someone else could be first?

If the service takes any money, it should not be hurried. Missing privacy policy, no physical address et. will get you flagged as scam site in EU pretty fast.

In this day and age, why does Drawbert need a physical address? That's ridiculous. It's not like someone is going to go to the address and expect to see Drawbert's studio with all of its paints and easels and canvases just laying around waiting to be used.

After that, the only people needing the address would be the state to have on file to send correspondence regarding the business. At that point, so many businesses have an address in another state/country to yet again make that address meaningless. Not really sure what your point in thinking a physical address is meaningful.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by dylan604 »

shinycode wrote: post #28

Will we have the tendency to steer away from generated content because it will become « cheap » ? Or will those generated painting will retain the same value as current paintings done by a human in their appreciation and value ?

eventually, the novelty will wear off.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by irq-1 »

pavlov wrote: post #8

One interesting development from generative AI is that it has opened a lot more people's eyes to seeing kitsch. Professional artists generally don't see great value in the style of art exemplified by these AI-powered image generators. It tends to be formulaic, derivative, and melodramatic with all the high-contrast portraits and sunsets and oversaturated pastoral landscapes. But popular taste has been in many ways st…

> I wonder if this augurs a larger shift in artistic taste.

People have distorted/blurred/abstracted images from the start with 'Vaseline on the lens' to airbrushing to modern concerns about 4k showing too much detail. Popular art wants to remove the detail and portray the subject as better-than.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by nicce »

dylan604 wrote: post #45
nicce wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the service takes any money, it should not be hurried. Missing privacy policy, no physical address et. will get you flagged as scam site in EU pretty fast.

In this day and age, why does Drawbert need a physical address? That's ridiculous. It's not like someone is going to go to the address and expect to see Drawbert's studio with all of its paints and easels and canvases just laying around waiting to be used. After that, the only people needing the address would be the state to have on file to send correspondence regarding the business. At that point, so many businesses…

> After that, the only people needing the address would be the state to have on file to send correspondence regarding the business. At that point, so many businesses have an address in another state/country to yet again make that address meaningless. Not really sure what your point in thinking a physical address is meaningful.

It is one of the best ways to validate valid business from scam sites.

There is a point for human person location, usually which can be verified. If the location is real, you are unlikely to scam someone, as there is certain way to reach them.

Anyway, in EU it is mandated that company has registered physical address.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by slackfan »

crazygringo wrote: post #20
slackfan wrote: post #2

Examples look like pretty basic Photoshop filters circa 20 years ago.

Not even close. Traditional Photoshop filters can't do anything like this. I know the filters you're talking about, and they can certainly turn photos into some faux-artistic effects, but the result is really bad, and everything in the image remains in the exact same place. This is applying an actual artistic style, and also changing body position, background, hair, lighting, etc. So I don't know why you'd want to be…

To an untrained eye, it all looks the same really. There is no artistic style here that you can clearly see in any decent museum of fine arts. It really does just look like photoshop filters.

Not sure the power costs of running a model like this over the caloric costs of a human + the power to power their photoshop machine, for instance, is worth it.

Re: Show HN: Create a portrait painting from one photo

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Post by dylan604 »

nicce wrote: post #48
dylan604 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this day and age, why does Drawbert need a physical address? That's ridiculous. It's not like someone is going to go to the address and expect to see Drawbert's studio with all of its paints and easels and canvases just laying around waiting to be used. After that, the only people needing the address would be the state to have on file to send correspondence regarding the business. At that point, so many businesses…

> After that, the only people needing the address would be the state to have on file to send correspondence regarding the business. At that point, so many businesses have an address in another state/country to yet again make that address meaningless. Not really sure what your point in thinking a physical address is meaningful. It is one of the best ways to validate valid business from scam sites. There is a point for…

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Shell companies filing incorporation papers with fake addresses are a thing. If you think that the bizAddy listed on some website is the end all of verifying a company as legit, then you're still susceptible to being scammed.

There are plenty of services offered to companies that provide a physical address that is nothing more than a wall of mail boxes and a person on staff to sign/accept packages while providing a physical address that gives the appearance of legitimacy.

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